Why Successful Women CAN'T find a 'GOOD' Man

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It's not about power, it's about masculine / feminine polarity and masculinity has been associated with being the provider for tens of thousands of years. You can't simply change these attraction dynamics in two generations

friendlyoze
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A woman in this situation won’t admit it but she’s afraid to be judge on her choice of man

likearollingstone
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I’m about halfway in, and she’s mentioned several times that she suspects this feeling in women is due to conditioning, but she hasn’t substantiated that at all. What is she referencing to make this hypothesis? What if it’s NOT conditioning? What then? I hear an appeal to the emotions of other women, but I’m not hearing a well thought out point.

infinitedurr
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Hypergamy doesn’t care. For the women that define hypergamy by financial success, they are digging a hole from which they cannot climb out. For women that base hypergamy on other characteristics, they have a much greater chance of finding a man that meets those characteristics, namely, competence in the world. It is an evolutionary psychological trait that women seek men that they perceive to be more competent and capable in the world. If they’re able to attract and keep that kind of man, they enjoy a greater level of status among their female peers for that achievement.

aalvarez
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There is another angle that financially, successful women are encountering for the first time. Their financial success places them at a disadvantage at the time of a future divorce. It is a fear that almost predominantly affects men but now more financially successful women are beginning to understand it as well and they can mitigate this fear by always wanting a more financially, successful husband, from which resources can be shared in the event of a divorce.

aalvarez
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Why is there this war going on between men and women it is so depressing why can’t we just love each other fore who we are

lars
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When men come Home with money it is our money The moment a woman start to get more money these money is hers that is my expirence it happen to me after 27-28 years of marriage and now after 36 years of marriage this is ending it - her view on me has changed totally she has no respect fore me anymore so we are heading for divorce

lars
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From my experience men seem to turn into little puppy dogs when they encounter women who they feel are bigger than them.

I notice that instead maintaining their frame and sense of self they will put the leadership on her.

When you look to her for direction or to tell you what to do… Or when all your time with her is spent with you complaining about your shortcomings (instead of doing something about it), this is what’s unattractive

It’d help to just treat her like her money doesn’t exist to you. Not in a condescending way but just remembering that at the end of the day she’s still a woman who wants to feel cherished and valued for her femininity. And that you still have value and strength to add to her life that go far beyond money

MuseSunflower
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I'm fascinated by the whole thing about income and the perceived attractiveness of a man. I mean, I own two rental properties (one of them is mortgage-free and the other will be in 12-18 months) I also have investments in the stock market and premium scotch whisky and will achieve complete financial freedom in the next 60 months which means money from my passive income streams can replace what I earn from my employed income and completely fund my lifestyle.

But while I have no debts and will achieve financial freedom, I am not a high earning individual so probably not that attractive to a woman who want a man who earns more than them. Of course, the thing is, while I only work part-time in a menial job, over 50% of the population are living paycheck to paycheck, which means many women who would not date me because of what I earn are right now probably struggling to pay their bills. Meanwhile, in theory, I could give them a place to live and pay all the bills for the property and they could live there rent-free. But still something tells me if a woman is wedded to only dating a man who earns more than her then she'll fail to see the value of the financial security I can offer. Oh well, it's her loss, eh?

lifestoryguy
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She asks a good question of why do you need that and it relates back to women's insecurity and a collateral effect of hypergamy with a sense of pride in your man tied to his money

timallen
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What about fear of being taken advantage of financially by someone who earns less? High earning=/=power

ti
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Sorry I had to cut it off halfway through. It’s clearly not “conditioning” which she keeps repeating over and over. There is data that clearly demonstrates what we already know; our monkey brain is operating as it did thousands of years ago, a woman is attracted to a superior mate because that means better genetics, more resources and basically survival. No amount of talking yourself out of it is gonna change any of this. Attraction isn’t a choice.

ACruz-kqdi
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Trying yo ask anyone to explain logically why they enjoy anything sexual is a logical fallacy. None of our desires are rooted in logic.

Women like what they like because...reasons. Its not that deep and youre not gonna present a logical argument that can change their feelings. That goes for men as well.

matten_zero
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The only reason why this situation exists is because of quotas, inclusivity, incentives to put women first in employment choices, which is sexual discrimination against Caucasian men. Companies have been infiltrated by woke policies, where HR stands for " her resources" and includes a protected category paragraph, where women are placed first in the order. It's very suspicious and self serving because most HR departments are women. This aspect is only reinforced by the over whelming predudice against masculinity in schools, with an emphasis on undermining men and not seeking equal opportunity.

timallen
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When a women out earns a man it leads to separation

georgerodriguez
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I’m super lost in this conversation right here…

Some_kind_of_wonderfü
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My girlfriend and i make about the same amount of money, and it's not an issue at all.

poser_disposer
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Maybe it’s more about working with biology rather than trying to override it.

Every time a woman has sex there is a risk of pregnancy and in the back of her mind she needs to feel like if she ever fell into that vulnerable position that you are someone who would be able to have her back and provide that stability for her to give birth comfortably

Even if you don’t plan on having a kid, that possibility is still running through your mind unconsciously

I think a man making less money threatens that survival need. maybe men have to work a little extra at creating the illusion and feeling that she’s still protected and safe with you. Like she mentioned, there’s a lot of strength in character, personality, physicality, etc.

MuseSunflower
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This conversation doesn’t have much structure.

jonathanrocha
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I think a subset of this whole issue is one around class. Not all instances, but I can see how class divides can play into these emotional pressures. If you are a woman who makes $200k+, you didn't just stumble into that position. You are far more likely to come from an upper middle class or higher social standing, and with a cultural background that is going to orient you towards keeping yourself within that general social class. Part of that is going to be having a husband who makes equal or more in income, in part to simply be able to live the kind of lifestyle that you are either used to from your family, or striving to enter that next rung.

If you live in NYC, London, or other hyper competitive city then making $100k is "poor" due to cost of living. Making $200k gives you the middle class lifestyle, but if you really want to move into the higher rungs of what is offered there then you need something more like $500k in income.

If the woman wants to have children, and wants to be able to afford the incredibly expensive childcare, along with private schools so her children can remain at her social level or go beyond, then again she is going to be looking for a man who is going to match her or beyond financially to pay for that social trajectory for her kids.

Lastly, who are her peers within the work world? If she is making a lot of money then the men in her profession are likewise going to be in a social class and display cultural traits that she very well might expect for her partner. If she works in the NYC financial district, works with people that are making upper six figures or more, and wants the kind of lifestyle that the water cooler talk evokes on a daily basis, then it becomes harder to see the guy who is a high school public school teacher in NYC, making $80k, to just fit into that whole social level, both financially and culturally.

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