Towards a Metapsychology that is True to Transformation - 2 -Cognitive Science Show

In this episode Gregg lays out the problem of psychology and we explore how it interweaves with the problematization of transformation.

[Juhziz]

4:35 Key concepts of metapsychology: behavior, mind(mental processes), cognition, consciousness, self.
11:52 Conflicting messages. Towards what should one transform?
15:04 Metapsychology and secular priesthood. Where metaphysics and psychology meet.
24:16 Relevance is between cause and reason.
32:02 Psychology isn't like biology in it's fundamental organization.
39:57 William James, Charles Sanders Peirce, James Mark Baldwin and Watson. Idea of measurable psyche, IQ tests.
43:45 Sandcastle production machine, nonexistant grit and willpower.
45:45 Experiments and psychology.
48:08 Measurements, technology, institutional bureacratic control mechanism.
56:20 Vygotsky. The crisis of psychology in 1899.
1:11:26 Self-destructive ambivalence pattern within a psychology field.
1:13:25 Privilege of innovation over integration.
1:18:56 Replication crisis, yatrogenic spiral of reductive theorizing.
1:23:20 Psychology and technologic trends.
1:32:15 Dimension of mental emerges out of the living world at the animal level.
1:37:42 Agency. Everything behaves. Agent. Self. Person.
1:43:00 Upper level is lower level. Deep continuity.

[raresmircea]

I’ve been watching these vids for a while and besides contributing with great insights Gregg seems to be a fantastic person 👌

[domenicmolinaro]

I've felt suspicions around these problems of psychology, or a long time, and these articulations have made clear what those suspicions have been getting at! Thanks for shining a light on so much murkiness :) I feel like I am getting a true education on so many important and, perhaps, crucial matters

[IngridHurwitz]

💛💛💛 Best way to spend a Friday evening in Johannesburg

[forecast_hinderer]

To speak from a slightly more basic level of my self, wow, Zach’s final summary though. Great episode all in clearly laying out the problem.

[wiktor]

Thank you, Gregg, Zach and John. I'm currently studying to be a teacher and this series is a perfect complement to my text books.

[O.G.Rose.Michelle.and.Daniel]

Wonderful and fascinating: I've enjoyed this discussion a lot. It highlights well our need for a theory that "addresses" us, versus just "explain" us. This is also why I like Hegel's Absolute so much, which incorporates "the subject" into our understanding of "the truth." Well done!

[Soltuts]

When seeking transformation, I found seeking individuals who where expressing examples of the kind of states of being that it is possible to achieve of great importance. Without such examples I felt alone and lost. When I read the book 'Autobiography of a yogi' it opened my eyes to new ways of experiencing the world that I found were deeply at odds with how I was raised to view reality.

[stian.t]

Wow! Heaven! Thanks a million! Of course I'm not able to keep up throughout, but why would that matter that much? This is so dense with marvelous information and new ways of looking at plenty of subjects witch is darn close to my mind, heart & soul. Love it! Looking forward to next week! :-)

[emilthiels]

Zachary said what had to be said, that we possessing the "whole" and universal that concept has to be capt as a start in having/or regaining agency
Not only intellectual but most of all in being .Thanks to all of you. I take my hat off!

[bradbear]

Thank you for sharing these conversations. The fact that I can keep up with most of it is already a testament that even this is helping with sense making. Gregg, Zack, JV, keep going! I would love to make a sense making clips channel to highlight nuggets of these convos that make you go awe.

[olivercroft]

This conversation feels like a pond, or a large lovely lake, with arranged ripples everywhere. Zach you are one of those cattails sticking above the water, i really love how you are "in to" piaget, it lit my heart up because I'm reading him so closely these days. Also, your eyebrows help the audience keep track of the conversation, reflecting - in, reflecting-on, and reflecting-for Action. John's elucidation on Derrida and cognitive psychology was surprising but very fitting and confirming. I think piaget constructivism program should try but heads with this. Greg you are super articulate and I love your energy input, really keeps the big wheel turning, thanks guys really loved this, I feel like I want to be part of the target audience here.

[icekan]

The layers talked in this dialogos is profoundly a new way of understanding and transformation of the psyche, agency in the arenas through the time of existence.

If I wasn't a listener to this conversation, i would have never been able to construct the above propositional sentence. Isn't that a slight self-transformation.
So Greatful to be part even as spectator in this great triologocigal discussion. Great work great teachers, thank you!

Gregg is an awesome psychologist, he helped you two speak your minds expressively. Haha was funny to realize almost at the end.

[jeffbarney]

So good. Zak's point about medical science is deeply in agreement re., the self delusion aspect.

[tclt]

I want to talk with Greg more about how the "mental life" emerges out of the animal level. The implications of this spikes as impressive (to say the least!). Great work gentlemen

[DeepTalksTheology]

12:09 this is THE essential question to be answered. The solution has evaded modernity and post-modernity alike

[alxsmac]

John, your critique of the response to the replication crisis is deeply resonant with my academic and professional experience. The mass "data-driven" fetish is largely and often explicitly seen as substitute for the careful theoretical and conceptual explication you're describing, i.e. thinking. Additionally, more data can't even help overcome the litany of common methodological errors committed stemming precisely from a lack of theoretical clarity.

[Walkabout]

Wow. I loved the deep dives into the (sad) history of psychology. So much to learn there.

[zedasamuel]

Hey guys. I'm a psychodynamically trained therapist with an undergrad degree in analytical philosophy, dedicated mostly to philosophy of mind and computational networks, and I've been waiting for this conversation for a good 20 years. I can't help but think continually of Heidegger's notion of enframedness and the way in which the so-called evidenced-based practices we're forced into in, for example, MediCal billing in the state where I practice is just a massive red herring. This is the most important conversation I've ever heard. I will continue to listen, but please help me understand how to interface with the conversation itself, because I'm constantly being forced into a framework that assumes Western liberalism as the de facto normative model into which I ought to compel my clients to belief as "mental health, " not only unquestioningly, but almost as an a priori way of being-in-the-world as what it is to be human. I have no idea how to do my job!