Programming For Kids: Scratch vs Code.org

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[akhonalunika]

Vivian's extensive coding experience will not be disrespected. 👸🏼Love that :)

[StefanVanderVyver]

There is a fundamental problem with making kids learn "coding" by means of visual programming. We have already seen the fallout in Mathematics where the paradigm "make the abstract concrete with visual examples" have backfired spectacularly. Fewer and fewer learners are interested in Maths.... because a function statement is simply so much more complicated that a picture of a pizza cut into four pieces. So they are all onboard until we switch them to the more proper Maths in secondary school. Then they walk away. Because it's too "hard". It's not. But it DOES INVOLVE THINKING with other faculties.... which were NOT stimulated during the visual coding process.

Without proper guidance and attention to the process VERY FEW learners actually brain transition from the visual to the abstract.... hence "Scratch for kids". Plus we also have some damage done to their confidence because "why can't I do this real coding thing"?

In my view the visual programs appeals to the "gamer" side of the brain with the visual stimuli and "gamification" of the learning process. I don't need anyone to tell me that kids love games. I do too. My daughters as well! But to expect them to "switch" from game-motivated learning to syntactical expressions and abstract thinking simply doesn't happen.

So I applaud MIT for the creation of Scratch. But I do not believe that we are succeeding in transitioning the learners successfully. I would much rather begin by teaching young kids HTML. Get their minds ready for syntactical expressions. Let them understand objects and properties in the abstract.

Coding is not for everyone. Let those who can apply their minds to it write code. Let the others play games.

[HE]

Instead of Scratch, I started my 8 year old nephew straight into traditional coding right off the bat in a very easy game programming language called Blitz-BASIC and because Blitz-BASIC was so straight forward and easy, he was able to pick it very easily. I showed him how to do things that he wanted to do, he went from there and now he's making his own games and I can say he has a BRIGHT future in programming. He enjoys it so much that it is hard to get him to stop now. Thus, with good guidance, it's not hard for kids to just straight out in traditional coding.

Some kids prefer task with direction like code.org and some kids prefer free task like scratch.

[adorbsniya]

1 //opening line
2 console.log(‘Hello’)
And you can write story’s like that lol, but I’m still learning

[jorgiea]

They have Scratch Junior for younger kids

[idk.what.to]

This is really helpful because I want to become programmer when I get older(to make games).I got inspired by some programmer and my uncle showed me this video and he said if I want to become programmer I need to start practicing right now so when I get older programming wont be problem.

[tiagozaidan]

Awesome video! I would like to suggest another tool for a comparison video. It's called Vizzcode, it combines Visual and Text programming at the same time.

[developedbyed]

Shes like : "Just let me work on some Vue projects not this kids stuff"

[presentfox]

Tbh I think scratch is easier because on code.org when trying to make a platformer it requires a lot more blocks and variables when scratch only requires at least like 40 to 30 blocks

[PlayerTowerDefense]

Scratch has more possibility and
Even there are limits
But the possibility will expand
You can make game that no one though its possible
Because we learn something new everyday and we will find the answer

[jonmorina]

Code org is the logic of programming so u would consider code.org like a learning class for scratch.Scratch is more complicated than code.org because to move a character u need to put on coordinations nad is not that kid friendly so isuggest if u want ur kid to programm start with code.oeg, finish all the moduls and pass to scratch then u can brench off to tother coding languages

[Dxuser]

Erik I feel so bad for you. In Scratch 2.0 and onwards there is no real tutorial videos/ starter projects :(. Scratch is more about learning it yourself

[joycedavis]

This video was super helpful. I agree with Vivian that Scratch was harder. She is awesome by the way! Thank you both. J. Davis

[jvg]

sir my son is very interested to learn app coding please suggest

[donutsnopeas]

Hi Erik and Vivian,
Great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just wondering how you made this really nice video. Did you use a green screen? Appreciate if you could kindly share some tips. Thank you.

[donutsnopeas]

Hi Erik, your video is very well done. Appreciate if you could share how you made this tutorial video. Green screen? How to you share your live screen? Txs

[adorbsniya]

I’m a kid and I have been searching the web and found a website that teaches how to code on Javascript so. now I learned a phew things on coding not to much but heheh yea

[KingsleyAmuzu]

Code.org wish they have codespark.com.

[bnxproduction]

Well I recommend unreal engine 😂jk well tbh I recommend you to learn on solo learn I learned html and kinda python and I am still 13