Trading With Margin - How I Do It

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Trading With Margin - How I Do It

Intro: 0:00
What Is Margin?: 0:21
How To Open A Margin Account: 1:08
What Is Buying Power?: 2:04
Portfolio Margin 7:36

What Is Margin?

When opening a trading account, you can open a CASH or a MARGIN account.

With a cash account, if you put $10,000 into the cash account, you have $10,000 in buying power.

Now, when you have a margin account when you put in $10,000 in cash, the broker will actually lend you another $10,000 giving you $20,000 in buying power.

How To Open A Margin Account?

So with tastyworks, which is what I use, If you want to open an account, it asks what kind of account do you want to open? Is it an individual account, an entity, a trust, or a joint account?

And do you want to open a margin, cash, or retirement account?

In a cash or retirement account, the broker does not lend you money, but when you use a margin account, you're getting a 2:1 buying power.

What Is Buying Power?
- Buying power for options is always non-leveraged. So if you put $10,000 in cash, even in a margin account, it means that you have $10,000 in buying power for options.
- Buying power for stocks is leveraged. So $10,000 in cash will give you $20,000 in buying power.
- Portfolio margin

Buying Power For Stocks VS Options
AAPL Example:
What happens if you want to sell, let's say you want to trade the Wheel.
- If you're selling puts, you might be forced to buy Apple at 125 & for each option you have to buy 100 shares of Apple at $125 if assigned, so you would have to bring $12,500 to the table, right?

When you're selling options, the broker is already giving you a discount. The buying power that will be reduced from your options is $2,202. So as you can see, if you are buying Apple at 125, you would have to bring $12,500 to the table, but here the broker is only charging you $2,202.

On a $10,000 account, you could sell 4 of these options. So we see that the broker will charge you $8,795. So on a $10,000 account, at first it seems that you have enough margin for this. Wrong. Don't do that.

Doing it that way would be irresponsible.

On a $10,000 account you're getting $20,000 in buying power. So if you're selling one option, and you would get assigned, then you would have to buy stocks for $12,500 and only have $7,500 left, this is why you only sell one option, and even though your broker will only charge you $2,205.

This is the right way to do this because you're not over-leveraging yourself.

What if you DID sell 4 options and got assigned? You would have to bring to the table 4 times $12,500, so this is $50,000, but you only have $20,000 in buying power.

You are $30,000 short & this $30K becomes a so-called margin call.

A margin call means that right now you have to wire the broker $30,000

Portfolio Margin.

You are getting a 5:1 leverage, or some brokers even offer a 6:1 leverage, instead of 2:1.

I personally use this "excess buying power" when things go wrong when I need to save a trade that is in trouble.

Recommended links and videos:

#MarginTrading #MarginAccount #StockMarket
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I hope this help you understand how to trade with a margin account responsibly. What else would you like to see me do a video on? Let me know in the comments below.

Recommended links and videos:

rockwelltradingservices
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This is the explanation I've been looking for the past week. I've seen so many videos about making money on options, but I have yet to see any besides yours that explains the crucial risk of margin (or the "discount") as it applies to options.

JuanFelipeCalle
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that's absolutely RIGHT! avoid the honeycomb offered by brokers, NEVER over-leverage! thx Markus for the kind reminder.

winterism
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You really remind me of the dude...I love the dude! Keep up the good work man :)

eyoblibla
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Can you make a similar video on how margin works with interactive brokers ? I’m very confused because it seems I have no buying power when owning stocks and using all my cash but tons of buying power if I own no stocks and trade options only

leafs
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So in your 250, 000 account videos - Do you size your total put positions to stay under 250, 000 if assigned to avoid using too much margin? Or do you size based off the 500k w/ margin?

I don't want to borrow any money from the broker, I only have margin because of the advanced trading strategies unlocked by it.

lupuskproductions
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If I a margin account and I sell naked option (put or call) and I do intraday trade or scalping . will there be any margin call impacting me if I am following PDT rule(My balance will be always above 25K) and also for selling one option SPY I might need around 9K but with margin it will come to around 2K right? Please help me understand them. I am using TD Ameritrade

kiran
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Herzlichen Dank, Markus, für Deine prompte Antwort👍🏻😊

robertrohrberg
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Hello,

IBKR only offers a 4x leverage on stock trading.

Do you may know a broker that offers more than that?

...not cfd/forex stuff.

Thx

Andy_B.
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Thanks for the explanation. I've been considering trading with margin.

electricmorning
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Markus. You are my trading Shaman. Guide me in the ways of the option. Love you man.

dirtyhandsoftherepublic
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I actually did not realize that buying power reduction was applied to the determination of required funds when selling a cash secured puts on Tasty. Good video, very helpful! Thanks for sharing!

thejourneymaninvestor
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Missed you over the long week bro! Good to see you again!

yhnmk
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No. You can still get equal money from cash accounts, from certain firms. And using Margin is a bad idea to use, it's a credit line and you may be on the hook at the end of the day if trading smaller stocks with special requirements. It's a credit card you don't want to use.

michaelperkins
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Hope you had great weekend. A couple days without you is a loss to us all. Your valuable knowledge is an asset too us all. Thank you for all your help.

seanntomas
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I take no more than 33% of my net account value in margin. I only invest in indexes etf (QL2 and SSO).

CGB.SPENDER
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hello sir how long I can allowed to hold my margin position

mxxgexf
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excellent explanation i have seen on this subject. thank you very much. i have a question, does the broker charges you more on having a margin account compared to a cash account?

mhavissl
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Do you have a video about shorting stock? Since margin is needed, how do they charge interest? Daily? How long until I have to close the position? One day? 1 week? Thank you.

starlaw
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Hello Markus, I understand that you have $50k account with $50k margin. Using that you can safely sell 8 puts for $125 ($125><100><8 = $100k). In case of assignment we have enough to cover and we used all $100k. As we used the margin, what you will do next, sell 400 shares for $125 and pay the margin immediately and sell 4 covered call or sell 8 covered call using all the margin? My broker charges 8.45% for $50k margin or $12/day. Thanks for your time in advance.

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