OVER-HYPED or GROUND-BREAKING? Apple Vision Pro // Rabbit R1

Two of the most talked about products in the tech sphere are Apple's new Vision Pro spatial computer (AR/VR headset), and Rabbit's newly announced R1 AI "pocket companion". Are they being over-hyped or are they genuinely innovative?

These are different products, on opposite sides of a pricing spectrum... but could one or both of them have what it takes to be a genuine GAME CHANGER for the tech world?

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CHAPTERS
0:00 Intro
0:28 Vision Pro
2:33 Early adoption concerns
3:16 One size fits all?
3:53 A lonely experience?
4:43 Pre-order success and pricing
5:15 Rabbit R1
5:58 LLM & LAM
6:21 A virtual assistant walkie talkie?
6:52 Rabbit R1's LAM functionality
9:07 R1 pricing and pre-orders
9:56 Final Thoughts

#apple #visionpro #rabbit #meta #virtualreality #mixedreality #ai

[bryans]

Many years ago my wife and I were sailing in the San Juan Islands (Washington State US) when we were suddenly surrounded by a pod of Orcas. We debated for about one nanosecond going below and getting a camera to memorialize the event, but knew we would miss not just seeing the Orcas, but also "experiencing" them. I don't believe this can be done through a camera lens.

[masterphoenixpraha]

As someone who really enjoys to watch TV at home alone, undisturbed, at this point the idea is - buy a premium large TV that costs around 2.500-3000 USD + changing the furniture to be able to fit it in, so additional costs. Or get the Vision Pro... And have a large TV on the go anywhere I go... Maybe it sounds stupid, but that was my immediate idea when I saw the keynote... And it is still in my head till today... Of course as non-US resident I have to wait till there is some version for Europe, but will see....

[garanceadrosehn]

As someone who has had zero interest in all of the existing VR/AR headsets, I think the Apple Vision Pro will have a big impact. Not *THIS* release of the Apple Vision Pro, of course. Given the cost, I think that even Apple knows that there's no way that *this* model is targeted at consumers. It's targeted at developers, but it shows off enough amazing technology that developers will be willing to spend the money for this model with an eye towards what *future* models will bring. I expect Apple needs to get the cost much closer to the price of a decent Macbook before this product will sell to significant numbers of non-Geekery people. And given how much CPU power is in their headset, I doubt the price will ever go below the cost of a laptop.
In addition to the price, I think they have to get the weight of it down so it'd be wearable for longer.
I do agree that I can't imagine buying one of these if all I cared about was watching movies or personal real-life events in spatial video. And from what I've heard so far, this version even less "shareable" than what you described here. It does a have a "guest mode" so someone else can use it with it configured for their use, but the settings of that guest are not saved. Therefore, every time a "guest" uses it, they will have to re-configure it for their use. This is not exactly user-friendly. I assume Apple will improve on this aspect of the Vision Pro in future models.

[well]

Price is the least important thing for a product to be a success. Desirability and functionality is the most important thing. Because, if something is undesirable or doesn’t add any real value, even free isn’t cheap enough for it to be successful

[tonyburzio]

Stunned they didn't wait for the M3 before selling the Vision, that's what the M3 was for, to fix the fact you couldn't play games on the Vision without running out the battery. I guess Tim's retirement is just too close and TSMC is taking too long (setting destruct charges under their production lines apparently took longer than anticipated). If they were to put an M3 in the Vision so you have better 3D and battery life? That would be worth it, but M2? Bleech! Wait, you want to wait...

[Kawumsa]

I personally think that VR glasses make more sense in the 3D world of corporations. Just like the car industry is already doing successfully. As a private user, I don't like the fact that we are moving one step further away from personal contact.

[Shlooomth]

Rabbit is designed to do things you don’t want to do yourself, for you. Apple vision focuses more on bringing you closer to what you care about. They both have a place

[martoneill]

insightful and interesting - thank you

[mojoblues]

Right now, the use cases for a Vision pro are very limited. It's a sneak peek into the future. It's basically Apple showing off what they're able to do when they stuff all of their hardware expertise into a VR product.
199€ isn't a lot, but still too much to dump into an unfinished product. At least when you're not running a YT channel.

[petethegeek]

Completely agree with the solitary aspect of VR type devices. We become the literal singularity. Not convinced about Vision Pro yet.

The Rabbit is cool though and has a lot of potential. Although historically tech brands with the name Rabbit haven’t lasted long.

Thanks for the insights ❤

[marxhubert]

Philosophical matters aside, the thing is there. What you're going to do with it is only up to you. Don't blame the tool; blame the way you use it. Also, you have to have it at hand before making plausible judgments. Apple calls it Special Computing - computing, for productive activities and work, much like with computers. But you can sometimes play games or toy around with it, why not.

[well]

Mixed Reality needs to be desirable before it can be affordable.  Vision Pro is a lot like the first Macintosh in 1984. Revolutionary but not affordable ($7500 in today’s price). But as all things with tech, it got cheaper and cheaper and eventually laid path for the world of personal computing. The gen 4 of  Vision Pro will do the same thing for spatial computing when they make it cheaper, lighter and longer battery life

[Mangolite]

Rabbit R1 has a good idea but a flawed execution. Instead of entering the hardware segment, it should be an app that addresses the very thing they are criticizing. The harsh reality is that the LAM is gradually becoming available on smartphones, and when that happens, Rabbit R1 will become an obsolete device that nobody would want to carry around.

[eon]

Just another bullet point in the VR time line Oculus started 10 years ago.

[daveh]

So what's the play with the R1? Full, elective access to our digital systems & services? Identity capture and hijack? A cheap, 'cool' gadget must have an angle or they could have knocked up a 3rd party assistant for another platform.

Vision Pro's access to iOS/iPadOS library (even with no UI tweaks) can't be underestimated. Many major, pro apps have iPadOS versions & iOS app are fine as spatial 'widgets' so it comes with a distinct advantage over the competition. But that price tag? No thanks.

[slaphead]

As somebody who's been using VR, and to a certain extent AR for some years now, I'm not really sold on Apple's headset. The kind of activities that Apple are promoting with the headset have for the most part already been tried, and while exciting in principle they almost always end up being awkward in practice. I would not want to work or watch a film while wearing a headset for example

Now it maybe that Apple have solved resolution and latency issues, and smoothed out the overall experience, but even so VR headsets tend to be relatively heavy, isolating, and can for some people cause motion sickness.

I don't think this will end up being the killer product that it's hyped to be. VR is great for immersive experiences, but until we can get headsets in form of lightweight glasses, or contact lenses, then I can't see a wider adoption of the technology beyond that of immersive gaming.

[seste]

The entire internet has been on a trajectory of personalization for decades, so a personal internet device makes sense. What doesn’t make sense is buying an AI device that doesn’t have AI on it. It makes queries to a cloud service, and if the service stops, you’ve got a $200 pretty orange brick. Not to mention every device for the next five years will be putting the AI processing on device, which is where it belongs to be viable. Bad take.

[AlanW]

Ok, the personal assistant bit was hilarious, especially given the absurdity of the request.

The Rabbit functionality would seem like any smartphone app *could* do the same, but it does feel like having dedicated hardware is a compelling reduction to friction for the UI. 

I think a lot of nay-sayers are going to be oblivious to the reality of just how hard the software and integration parts are. That is where Rabbit's strength are going to have to lie.

[toututu]

One is to improve upon control and manipulating apps and os while the other one downgrade users control by relying 100% of the ai. Hmmmm who won????

[unkownx]

Also f... Apple made another property connector... EU will be on their backs. And I agreed! Like... There's was no need to not put a usb c