AEGIS is a BAD CHARACTER*

*If you're a new player! Dabuz digs into why an inexperienced player should steer clear of one of the best characters in the game.

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[militarygradepotato]

mythra isnt that good at low level but pyra is BROKEN at low level

[thehuffpuff]

I think Pythra (Pyra especially) is good at the casual level, but I agree someone breaking into competition for the first time shouldn't be playing this character at all.

[thehuffpuff]

I think Roy is a better starter than Pythra for people that like this style.

[ytcmbt]

Top tiers often require strong fundamentals in order to be strong.

At low level Ganon is top tier, while Sheik is trash

[drewixw]

The middle ground aegis thing is true I either can confidently win or I just never win lol

[thehuffpuff]

What other characters do you think don't really have a "middle ground" of play?

[Za_Phantom]

I call her the super fundies character, cuz there is some bullshit, but her tools reward good fundamentals to an egregious degree. It's like building over a foundation with a mansion instead of a house. But the foundation needs to exist and be sturdy.

[fastexpand]

Learning aegis has been good for learning the game for me. They force me to Practice good movement and spacing

[MagicYT]

finally someone speaking the truth about aegis, thank you dabuz

[drewixw]

I can confirm I'm not worried abt fighting pythras in elite smash as much as I am with other top tiers, not even close.

[justascapegoat]

Currently trying to decide between Aegis or Corrin.. I love both characters a lot but I dislike counters mainly because I mistake shit and die for using the counter

[squishjones]

Informative video, I'm starting to get into competitive and I know they aren't the best with that type of player, but I can't drop them cause I am not wanting to go through a 4th character crisis (Yes I've been through 3 character crisis's)

[darymetal]

At the same time tho, it's a char that can really elevate your play, because it does force you to think about what you're doing, and improving your fundamentals.
If you only rely on cheese you might never get past that phase, and will be relegated to forever spamming options with no brain behind the decisions.

It's not Sheik level "i can't be a bad player".
I think the char is fine.
But i do understand the argument, def Roy or Cloud or Rob can be better picks

[himmyneutron]

100% agree, mid level aegis players are underwhelming, the mistakes made with them can just lose them the game.

[ComboFood]

When I play I often play to learn my opponent starting from reactions to more prediction/read based, so I find myself in later stocks playing more Pyra at higher percents as the match goes on and in later games I normally get at least one kill around 50ish percent
My other mains are, Ganondorf and Ridley
I’ve tried replacing my Ganondorf a few times but I just can’t I always come back to him

[agquagwisvquwgavwj]

Hard disagree with this take. Started playing smash earlier last year with people who were better than me and Aegis still let me beat them more than any other character could. Mythra has a ton of easy damage if you combo into up B or punish a tech with side B. Pyra cheeses stocks like no other it’s pretty self explanatory.
I will say they taught me a lot about the game but now I dropped them for Inkling / Joker
If your looking to get into smash don’t shy away from aegis you’ll be fine.

[innocentshine]

Interesting but I don't really agree with this take

The average player could mess up the big optimal combos but there are also easier options that are good enough (like using uair/fair instead of rar bair) and still lets them extend the crazy advantage that she has

I don't think Aegis disadvantage is that bad outside of offstage scenario. She has foresight, good air mobility to escape annoying situations, swap, and then very threatening hitboxes all around her (including below) when she's Pyra

You're also usually not going to die from 1 mistake at lower level (not that it happens every stock at top level either) recovering with Photon Edge will work more often and mid level players won't be as consistent at gimping her or reading/covering all the recovery options (up B/airdodge to ledge/side B/swap with different timings/recover high)


The fact that she has so many good options can be a headache is you're overthinking it but otherwise I think it's good since you can do basically anything with good chances of success/good reward and don't really have to care about trying to hit a specific option that you need in X situation.

Neutral/spacing/whiff punishing is an important aspect of the game with any character and I feel like Mythra makes all of that much easier for you, which can carry pretty hard if you're usually not that good at it. Isn't it also contradictory to say that she's forced to appraoch a lot if she mostly wants to bait and punish options?

And then you have Pyra who gets abused a lot at top level, but can be a godsend at a lower levels with her great rewards off of very simple plays and easy win condition with Dair comboing to a kill move at a wide percent range, and a lot of moves that are hard to avoid and straight up kill. Very reminiscent of beginner/mid level-friendly characters like Bowser as long as you use her mostly for advantage & closing out stocks. The projectile can also be quite handy especially since it goes through enemy projectiles.

Just my 2 cents as a mid level player with a pocket Aegis lol

[christianbaker]

She also gets no love online. The lag makes doing mythra combos and ledge trapping way harder, so half of the charcters gameplan goes out window. It even makes pyra confirms harder

[Xearrik]

Pit is the best new player character in the game if you ask me.

[chalybee]

The first honnest person that says Mythra is hard.