Let a Leading KJV-Onlyist Teach You a False Friend!

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[アメ人]

Anyone who claims that English is a ROMANCE language should not be trusted/listened to. As a professional linguist myself, I was dumbfounded by the blogger’s statement that English is a Romance language. While it may have plenty of influence from Romance languages, it is ultimately a Germanic language. Thank you, Mark, for your insights

[glstka]

12:06 "I speak Spanish" - So this guy who speaks Spanish needs to learn an older style of English to read God's word? Does God not speak his language? This is one of the biggest problems I see with KJV onlyism. The radical idea that Wycliff, and Tyndale had was that people should be able to read the Bible in their own language. After I posted this came 16:00, My point exactly!

[philr]

I just started reading your absolutely outstanding book 'Authorized', and I can tell you definitely cherish the KJV. I am also reading through the KJV for the first time coming from primarily using the NIV and NASB, and your book has definitely helped me understand the KJV in a new light, with understanding what false friends are. I love the Bible and its many translations in English, and the KJV is definitely one of them. I will say that the KJV is most definitely easier to commit to memory. After my readthrough I will happily settle back into my NASB-NIV-NLT rotation but the KJV will definitely be relevant to me. Thank you for all your work, it truly makes a difference in the body of Christ.

[Belak-gqwt]

Hey Bro. Mark. I wanted to thank you for your work. I am an intern looking to church plant in a KJVO section of the Baptist movement. Your videos and book helped me on a path that moved me from Ruckmanism to a TR leaning, textual confident, KJV loving and pragmatically using, non KJV-only-ist. I have since discipled some young believers accordingly, and have unbound their conscience (or rather God has). I purchased my first NKJV Bible a week ago and am using it for my personal devotions. My pastor is on the same page as me, which I didn’t find out until after taking the job and after finding my new convictions. This has been a multi-year journey. I discovered you after leaving ruckmanism and entering a more mild KJV-only position. Thank you for thinking critically, but more importantly, thank you for your gracious spirit. I appreciate you, Brother.

[hayfieldhermit]

"They that are wise, had rather have their judgments at liberty in differences of readings, than to be captivated to one, when it may be the other." - KJV translators.

there was a time when I would become angry over Bible translation. That anger turned to hatred towards people sometimes. In time I stepped away from my KJV onlyism, but I felt like the ground had given away and I was in a textual freefall. I felt the ground under my feet again, after humbling myself and allowing the KJV translators to teach me how wise people approach the I'm not angry anymore. Feels amazing! =)

[cameronjdecou]

Great video, as usual. Thank you for your consistent, polite, and reasonable discourse on this topic (and others).

[ayetizzo]

@markwardonwords 
After watching the videos in the playlist of false friends, I find myself appreciating the KJV even more. It gives me a nostalgic feeling of my teenage years in school learning Spanish for the first time. I like it.
The archaic language of the kjv is one of the many reasons why some still consider it a favorite. I have multiple bible versions as well: The nasb, niv, and esv

I will say, I love and appreciate the research you have done. I already had previous knowledge of a handful of those words, but admittedly, some of them I did not. I am a passionate learner so learning these just make me fall more in love with the kjv. However, even though I do not consider myself an onlyist, I do see the historical value of the kjv as the onlyists do. Which brings me to this proposal:

You should definitely put the videos in that playlist in the form of an archaic dictionary or textual manual for those who appreciate kjv. Might I suggest the title "The King's English Dictionary". Listing each archaic term from the kjv (and/or pilgrim's progress) in alphabetical order, with each definition holding the multiple possible meanings of the words with the cited sources of definitions, also accompanied with examples if possible.

I would definitely by a hardcopy of that. Please don't only do a digital version, make a hardcover/paperback version as well. With how many kjb's are still being sold to this day, a dictionary/handbook like that would surely prosper, especially with the right marketing. You could even have some of your colleagues advertise/promote it. There are plenty ways to cut down the cost of pushing it in the market.

All I'm saying is, with all the research you've done on the kjv, I would use some of that to benefit those who love the kjv. There are plenty of people that treat the kjvo the same way the kjvo treat them. I was on a forum where someone quoted a verse from the kjv, and someone commented "get away from the kjv before it leads you to hell." That person responded saying that they normally read the CSB, but he grew up on the kjv. So there's groups of prejudice on both ends. The lady that said the man with the kjv would go end up in hell supposedly is an NLT kind of gal.

[traymac]

Mark, thank you so much for your ministry, brother! I truly appreciate all you do for God's people and new converts.

[ThinLine]

Your level of depth of understanding and patience with KJV olnlyists is impressive. What I find astounding is the example you cite of lists of archaic words and what their modern meaning is, created by some of these folks. How many KJV only pastors will read something out of his crusty old KJV Bible and follow that up with, "So, in other words, what Paul is saying here Aren't they effectively "re-interpreting" the KJV text into modern vernacular every time they teach a lesson or preach a sermon? So we're supposed to "just learn" the archaic 17th Century English words that got translated from the original text? Why not just go back to the original text and translate it into modern English? But wait. Hasn't somebody already done that?

When they go out of their way to claim EVERY OTHER English translation is just a satanic, new-age translation, purposely designed to be misleading and deceptive, I think they stretch the limits of credibility and logic. Sewing division where it isn't really necessary is in itself a tactic of the enemy. This whole debate over translations is as fascinating as it is totally unnecessary. I like the work you do cutting through the nonsense.

[TurtleTrackin]

Once upon a time - the church only had a Latin Bible. And the idea of translating the "majestic Latin" into common tongues like German or English was unthinkable.

They used the same argument the KJOs made.

[thetickedoffpianoplayer]

My literal mind didn't catch that the milk was supposed to be sincere, I just thought it meant the word of God was sincere. Oops, lol.

[ernestperryjr]

Not exactly sure how I ended up finding this channel, but thanks youtube algorithm! I love discussions about Bible translations, especially after growing up in a "not KJV-only but *very* suspect of other translations" church...as I eventually evolved into the Presbyterian I find myself to be today (where most everyone uses the ESV [and to lesser extent] the NASB95 and others), I often find myself suggesting translations even *more* dynamic (like the NLT) as suggestions for new/young Christians that cross my path. I'm currently working through the Berean Study Bible as I quite like the idea of an "open/without royalties" Bible translation that's easy-to-read without losing textual integrity. This is the first vid I've watched on your channel - looking forward to checking out others as well. God's peace be with you!

[hayfieldhermit]

Is "lovers" a false friend in Psalm 38:11 "My lovers and my friends stand aloof from my sore;...."
Websters - Lover - A friend; one who regards with kindness.

I have never in my life heard anyone refer to loved ones as "lovers" unless they were intimately

[MarkKennicott]

A false friend that KJV Only readers misunderstand frequently is the word "conversation, " easily misunderstood as "what we say" when the Greek means "how we live."

[PaulAnderson-lztn]

I have worked with KJV-ONLY folks for years. At times, if a KJV advocate is open to friendly dialogue, I will point out that several times the KJV Bible tells us that God opposes "leasing." (Psalms 4:2 and 5:6) Now I actually have my car on a three year lease. Am I in trouble spiritually? Am I doing something God hates? Every single time, they have no answer and just look confused--- until I explain that God is not condemning that particular type of financial arrangement. Rather, the modern equivalent of "leasing" is lying, deceitfulness.

And, if they are a good friend and not upset with me, I will tease them about it: "You know, if we really should not change things but stick with the original, maybe we should also retain the same fonts and type-faces that were on the pages of the original KJV Bible. And as I think of making no changes to the Word of God, I thnk we should go back to using scrolls!! After all, the Apostle Paul wrote to Timothy that the word of God is not bound (2 Timothy 2:9) so we should get rid of all these bound Bibles and go back to the scrolls like Jesus used!

[parksideevangelicalchurch]

In short: KJV has unintentionally become impure by language change over the last 400 years.

[randywheeler]

Thank you for your sincere teaching on this topic😜

[therealkillerb]

Great content as usual - thank you! ;-)

[tinybibles]

Cannot wait for your book to come out Mark. Having all of these in one place is going to be a magnum opus and will overwhelm the judicious and impartial reader towards a translation in their spoken tongue. It's truly sad how much KJVOs are misunderstanding the pure milk of the Word because of an extra-biblical commitment to an arbitrarily anointed translation.

[fnjesusfreak]

As a possible counterexample, Erasmus' Latin reads "lac illud non corporis sed animi, quod dolum nescit". My translation from several years ago reflects this reading, if slightly loosely: "that milk which is not of the body but of the spirit, which knows no deceit".