The EXACT moment Rory's downfall begins | Gilmore Girls

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Guys, I know the exact moment Rory goes bad in Gilmore Girls.

05:51 - the moment

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Switching to chilton is where I'd put the start of Rory's downfall. The fact that the grandparents paid for it undid everything her mom had taught her by example so far about self-reliance

yourfavouriteduck
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I say her downfall was when she skipped school to see Jess, and miss Lorelai's graduation at the business school. That was the only time she would get to finally see her mother walk on the stage, and she risked it to see Jess. Her mom only started the whole thing for her. It was nice that at least her grandparents came, but it was just a huge event that she shouldn't have even risked missing. I think what brought it home was when I thought of all the sacrifices Lorelai made just, so that they could be more stable (I assume that she made this decision before she got involved w/ her parents again).

withniejules
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One of my absolute favorite moments of Gilmore Girls is with that judge who calls Rory an entitled privileged kid right after she steals the yacht. It would have been nice to see more characters with that sense of judgment calling out Rory for her behavior.

dinag
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I’m sure that the whole famdom will agree with me on this: oviously, no one is perfect, I just think that rory’s devolopment is realistic for someone in her position. rory’s environment does contribute alot to this because everyone arounds her spoils the hell out of her. its not just Lorelai’s fault and Rory’s grandparents fault.There’s the fact that the whole town treats rory like a princess majority of the time. its Crystal clear that this went into her head and ego, cause the second someone doesn't like her, natually Rory goes crazy. I will also add the fact that Lorelei is not only too easy on her like you said, She also treats Rory like a friend more than her kid.

rainy
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i think my biggest problem with rory isn’t her but the fact that no one ever seems to tell her she’s messing up or confront her for anything, especially her lack of accountability. I think it can be argued that her lack of accountability comes from constant free-passes she gets from her family and community when she does things that should lead to growth. and even if there isn’t any growth, it’s as if no one notices her bad behavior. it’s like the viewer is being gaslit into thinking rory is the epitome of everything.

omeeshakrishnan
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I actually think "The Moment" is when her and Jess crass her car. The way everyone bends over backwards and forwards to remove any accountability from her and dump in on someone else was so bad that even she got annoyed but ultimately it was a mentality she internalized for the rest of the series.

kitana
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The "study tree" thing made me SO ANNOYED at Rory, I started to see her in a totally different light. It was just so entitled and bratty. Glad some people tried to call her attention on that and she let it go, but it didn't fix the whole issue.

Anna_Priscilla
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I honestly don't care that Rory is kind of a mess in the original show - she's just a teen / early twenty something. People aren't perfect and they do dumb shit at that age. What I found deeply disturbing however is that between the series ending and the reboot, she had literally not grown an inch. In my experience, so much growth happens between the ages of 22 and 30, but unfortunately the writers just let her completely stagnate. Same with Lorelai and Luke btw, even though I found it a little more forgiveable, because they were already older when the show ended.

shboomgirl
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I would like to come in Lorelai’s defense and remind us all that she had Rory in high school. When you are such a young mother and have to navigate the world of parenting AND adulting (she did not even graduate high school or get a chance to have a standard growing-up experience) simultaneously, without support of a father and your parents, you have a different set of emotional needs. I suspect Lorelai needed a best friend and a figure of support, but since Rory was the only constant person in her life, Lorelai moulded her into what she needed. By being a strict parent and having to hold her daughter accountable, she would have had to risk of pushing away someone she was emotionally dependent on. Is that right of her? Not really, but if you had a child at 16/17 with barely any support from or good relationship with your family, your needs would not be the same as one of an emotionally developed, financially stable adult with a substantial support system of people around you

eugeniahanniffy
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This is a topic I love analyzing! I feel like Rory was set up to be a spoiled brat from childhood. Time and time again, Loralai brags about having the perfect daughter who practically raised herself, and that’s the problem. Loralai never raised Rory, or at least never acted as a parent. Rory was brought up with a mom who would always buy takeout, candy all the books she wanted (Not that these things are bad, but it shows how the two them would indulge in whatever they wanted. It also rubs me the wrong way how they never seemed to any food in their house and how everything Loralai fed Rory was unhealthy.) Loralai also relied on Rory for emotional support instead of being a parental figure to her. I think that messed Rory up a lot.
In addition, Loralai herself also often puts herself first, before Luke, Sookie, Max etc, and always acted like the victim. That clearly rubbed off on Rory.

oliviapanzica
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In my opinion, Rory was indeed a great kid/teen. It's interesting that most of the comments and the video focus on Lorelai and the way she raised her, blame the grandparents, even the town but forget to mention Christopher. He was the father so he was equally responsible for Rory. Yet, he was absent, irresponsible and unaccountable. I think that this is the source of Rory's insecurity and the reason she always tries to find stability and please her partners, altering fundamental traits of her personality. Rory tried to balance between a life her mother escaped from and an entitled life she entered again when she started Chilton. And that wasn't easy to handle.

katekoto
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She is 100% insecure. And I blame her mom and the entire town. Imagine growing up and everyone telling you how perfect you are. You feel like you can do anything and you do. Then you have a fe people tell you the truth or get upset with you and you lose your mind. Shes the worst but I love the stupid, problematic show.

amberdeterman
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Idk why are people so dissatisfied with how Rory turned out. She was treated like some miracle her whole life so when she met the real world she crumbled. Plus she is the embodyment of burned out gifted kid.... There is plenty of people that were so talented in their childhood but the pressure and many more things gave them issues they had hard times dealing with. She literally had to tap-dance when she felt anxious for God's sake.... We loved her and it's sad to see her downfall but it was predictable and if you think about it it's totally normal. I'm not even mad about it because it's what happens to people like Rory.

tatianabrandicova
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Unpopular Opinion: Mitchum wasn’t so bad. He constantly wanted Logan to be better, do better, finally mature like he himself once had. And he said to Richard that if Rory did have what it took to succeed, then she would be able to bounce back despite his criticism towards her. Plus he was not rude and disrespectful to Rory like the rest of Logan’s family was and he apologized for the way they had treated her when she had dinner at their house. I just don’t think he’s that bad. I think at that point in the show where he was introduced, I even liked him more than I liked Rory.

bbblueblun
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As some ppl have said, her flaws made her realistic. But I think some self-awareness and attempt at correction would also have been realistic, and certainly a nicer example for all of us growing up. She did correct some things (like moving back home and returning to school), but it still felt kind of grudgingly?

I think the unsettling thing was that we thought we knew her character and personality (people do change and evolve, but usually certain things remain constant), but were surprised when she did things that went against her supposed traits: being sweet and quirky. It was like seeing a child and a projected image of who they would become, and then watching them grow into someone completely different.

LS-qwez
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2:23 oh my gosh that whole “my tree” thing made me so upset. Who does she think she is?

anabelletaylor
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she is literally ghostin Dean all the second season and people expect that he doesn't get mad about it.
She cheats on him. the guy who takes her to buy books, the same guy who never tried to forced her to anything and he decided to broke up with her, because she wasnt ready to say "i love you" (first season) and the entire town hates on him, (and beats him) without knowing that he doesn't do anything wrong. Literally he made her a car. A CAR that she crash with the guy who Dean was supposted "not to be worried about." And She never faces the consequences.
Dean ruins his own marriage, but the fact that Rory enjoys controlling the situation with "he was mine first" says a lot of a narcissist personality and not empathy at all.
she was like that all the time, since the first season.


*sorry about my english is not my firts language**

LabyrinthTaylorsVersion
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I love Gilmore Girls and disecting characters and their decisions but I think it's pretty simple: the writers aren't as clever as people think or the writer themselves think. Gilmore Girls is great, don't get me wrong but Amy Sherman Palladino writes forced character drama, this is pretty visible with Dean, Jess, Rory, Lorelai, Christopher and more, she tries to do Jane Austen without fully understanding Jane Austen.

stuffwithsoph
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Rory’s character decline is literally historical lol. It was so sudden, at least that’s what I thought. Looking back, it was always there.

Sam-
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My impression was that the Series was the book Rory wrote, all sweetness and light not mention carefully curated to make it seem perfect and a Year in the Life was the ugly reality of the situation where the flaws are up-front and center.

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