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The honest truth about WordPress.

This video breaks down the pros and cons of WordPress and if you should even be using it!

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0:00 History of Wordpress
0:45 Pros of WordPress
2:27 Cons of WordPress
5:47 Should I use WordPress?

[soulwarrior]

I'm sorry, but I don't follow parts of your logic. You have taken over a poorly coded WordPress project and that "taught you" that maintaining plugins is a problem?
That's like me saying I took over a static website coded in 1995 and it was a terrible experience and now as a result I never want to touch HTML and CSS again.
Or like I've once driven a super old car and it was a terrible experience and now I'll never drive again!

This "logic" just does not hold up. If you are using WordPress the right way, this is simply not an issue. You can easily get by with less than 10 plugins, too.

[coolestnerdever]

I’m an avid WordPress user myself, however this is great convo so thank you for the video! It seems like Webflow is becoming more popular these days but I haven’t found WordPress to be limiting enough for me to consider anything else at this point.

[vutlharimhlongo]

Hit like if you also think this was a WebFlow sponsored video 😂😂

[LordJHouse]

1) You don't need to code if you use any popular theme and page builder, such as Elementor or OxyGen.
2) I've taken over WP sites that were absolutely weighed down with plugins, but was able to trim them down from ~30 plugins to 12. If you use the right theme and page builder, many of the plugins are redundant.
3) Regarding "murky waters, " I generally find answers to my WordPress questions or issues relatively fast.

[nihilistarchitect]

Just about ready to launch a small business online and from all the things I had to do and learn and do: design the product, testing materials, contacting and coordinating with two manufactures, incoterms, taxes and e- commerce regulations, affinity photo and affinity design, creating the logo, coming up with a name, etc etc the worst was and is still Wordpress. I work with software pretty much everyday and I have never seen such a bad user interface… you start adding plugins and themes and soon enough, just to find an option, you have to do a google search. I understand how powerful it is, where it came from and how It has evolved and yes it allows someone like me, that doesn’t know how to code, to put a website online but it’s painful if not jokeable. Want to edit your footer? It’s there. Your header? Not there, but elsewhere. Plug-ins? Some have their own thing in the main bar, others you have to go to the plug-ins page…just to navigate options and find where stuff is takes a while to get used to. And then one buys a theme and thinks things will be better organized and stuff, just to find out that it’s basically impossible for a newbie to understand what the theme does and what should be edited outside the plugin, etc… but I guess I am not the smartest guy out there, I mean I still don’t understand the difference between borders, paddings and whatever the third option is …. I spent more than one day fighting my theme to connect to Instagram, just to give up and add another plugin, and talk about cleaning the caches…. I have emptied the caches of browsers in a few months more than in 20+ years of internet usage. I would still use it if I had to begin again because I don’t like the idea of being suck into a payed platform but for me its very painful….. but it’s understandable once one considers what it is. There is no Steve Jobs behind it, but thousands of developers with no capacity or power to make something a bit more coherent in terms of user interface. And it’s also painful to see almost every week an update being proposed…

[josecox]

Just one thought: if someone doesn't know how to code, how can that person know the code outputted is any good?

It seems to me that if someone is going to offer web development services, said person needs to know the bare minimum.

Wix is a disaster and webflow is crazy expensive.

[smple]

Alright Payton, coming to your defense *a bit* here, if you aren't a WP developer and you take over someone's poorly developed WP site, then it would seem like a nightmare. I've taken over medical WP sites with realtor plugins installed because that was just a part of the agency's stack. Pretty lazy on their part. It may be nice to have a video panel for this type of comparison though. Get a WP agency owner (I'll volunteer) and look at some of the pros/cons with a WebFlow agency owner.

Don't get a WIX agency owner, WIX is just wrong.

At the end of the day though, whatever works for your agency and client's will pay you for is where it's at!

[raymondjenkins]

I have to agree. We started with WP several years ago in 3.x times. While there have been some good changes over the years, the need for an outrageous amount of plugins, along with all of the excessive code added in for various itmes that we don't even use, WP has just become too much of a pain in the butt to use. If I need one small component, I hav to install a plugin that does four additional things I don't need, and it is just wasted code.

Two years ago we started down the Webflow path. As someone with a coding background, this was a much better fit, with a better ability to customize the sites. Our clients are much happier with the outcome of their websites. I do wish we could host it on our own servers, but it is not really an issue for us.

We are starting to see some things we don't like in Webflow, and now we are looking to get back to our roots and code out the website. We are also looking to use headless WordPress. This lets us code everything, but have a backend that many clints can interact with. And it GREATLY reduces the amount of code from WP. Since it serves up static web pages, it is also very fast for users.

[stanleykubrick]

Are people still debating this? What he didn’t mention is the important idea that with WP you own your content whereas with companies like WIX, Webflow you’re joining and uncertain community like Twitter - buyer beware.

[amitjangra]

Everyone love options. And WP has unlimited. I don't want to say my customers "Sorry, i can't do that" or "Sorry, this is not possible in website". It is the customer who wins, not the platform

[jcwebtech]

I would like to use webflow but it lacks a lot of basic functional I usually need and the rest is extremely expensive upsells. Also a lot of the extensions and integrations required subscribing to a 3rd party platform and manage the functionality from their dashboard.

[darndarn]

I don’t care what design tools I use. For me the number 1 most important thing for my client sites is conversions . Conversion focused design wins no matter what tools you use.

[EddyVinck]

I’m a developer and I prefer the JavaScript ecosystem. I’m building my business website with NextJS and a headless CMS.

[mavrickone]

I have been a WordPress designer for a few years now, designing with Elementor or Divi.. But I must say I am tempted to try webflow. Totally agree with the plugins overload issue. Checked the worfpress backend of a famous website the other day and found a 102 plugins😳

[thebigbadman]

What about GDPR? is it safe to use Webflow in Europe?

[fckingcute]

my problem with wordpress is that having 20+ plugins is now normal. yes, developers need to get paid but when you have all of these pro version plugins it adds up into the thousands in yearly fees. its quite ridiculous. also you really don't need to know how to code to build a website on Wordpress but it does enhance the Wordpress website building experience lol

[grbskt]

I love the idea of Webflow, but I've been spoiled by the CS of Flywheel for years now. When I asked the WF community how problems are addressed, the answer was "The community. But you won't need that because the sites don't break/don't get hacked/don't go offline." Strong communities are awesome, but that's as risky to me as the whole plugin nightmare. I'm so torn.

[brianlandis]

After evaluating several platforms I chose the Duda platform, agency level.

[jossdiim]

WebFlow has a critical bummer feature related to commerce stores sites and it's a number of items - 3000 maximum, and its the highest Advanced tear for 212 a month. It's just nothing compare to any standard store engine. And I wish they did pay attention to this.

[idk]

🙋🏻‍♀️Wordpress Web Designer here. In terms of the cons, some cons I agree to a certain point. But they are manageable.

1.) plug-ins: I don’t think having 25-30 plugins is reasonable anymore. And yes they do require updates. Because of that I offer a monthly maintenance plan and I’m able to get recurring revenue for it ✅

2.) You do need to know some code even with the page builders for *advanced* customization. But, because of the big community, I found reliable developers who post blogs/ videos on how to solve it and share their code. I also think knowing some of the basics of the language is beneficial
3). Yes I’ve felt overwhelmed about the surplus of knowledge before. But I’d rather feel overwhelmed about the amount of knowledge out there than having no answers or community. I started about a year ago and when I reread some articles it makes even more sense. Plus I hear podcast like Divichat that help