3F UL Gear Qi Dian Pro 880g FRAMELESS BACKPACK REVIEW

Here is my review of my 3F UL Gear Qi Dian Pro 46L + 10L backpack. This is an ultralight frameless backpack that weighs just 880 grams. Despite it’s light weight, it still retains a lots of features. It costs £72 from Camperlists.

As soon as you put on this ultralight backpack you immediately notice the weight saving, especially compared to Osprey backpacks.

Comfort levels are good but I must say my review was based on taking my summer kit and hiking over the course of approx 5 miles.

The advantages of traditional framed backpacks would become clear when you added more weight and travelled further.

For me, I felt like this 3f ul gear backpack was too big for me. For reference, I am 5’8”, 70kg, 36” chest and 30” waist. There is lots of adjustment on this Qi Dian Pro backpack so if you’re a bit bigger you can definitely make it work for you.

This lightweight backpack is a waterproof backpack and has lots of features. I particularly like the large hip pockets. I was expecting a fully stripped-down backpack due to it’s weight but that’s not the case.

I had all my summer backpacking kit within the standard 46L part of the backpack. I didn’t need to use the additional 10L in the role top. However, it’s a nice addition knowing the extra space is there if I ever needed it.

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[Yer_Da_]

I use the non-pro version of this - I think the only difference is that it's not 'waterproof' but just water resistant. It's the 3F UL 40+16L backpack, weighs the same.

Having an eggbox type sleep mat is cruicial imho - I got a cheap copy of the Thermarest one and cut it into a smaller form (6 panels or something) and it works very well indeed.

Took it with 13kg on a 20 mile wild camp in the hills on a hot day - sweat not an issue (probably due to egg box design) - comfort was excellent.

It's cruicial that you pack the weight mid to high, and keep the less dense stuff low, and bare most of the weight on your hips via tightening the hip belt - you don't want to bear most of the weight on shoulders or chest if poss.

For £50 I'm really happy with mine - I'm 6'4, 33 inch waist for reference

[dbcustomrc]

As to the pack being big for you, it’s designed to have a thick sleeping pad between your back and the pack. Most people have 3-4 inches of padding which would shorten the shoulder straps considerably. Also, your pack is very….. chubby. What I mean is that you packed everything in such a way that the pack contents are squashed out the sides and back. Carefully packing a frameless pack to keep it’s designed shape and size and using the compression straps to aid in that as you pack really makes for a nice tight pack that rides up your back and stays in place. Look around at how to pack a frameless pack and you will see what I mean. It makes a huge difference when your pack is taken land rigid vs squishy and lumpy.

[grizzlycountry]

It is "waterproof" backpack that has two holes on sides for water bladder and no place to put water inside. If you are smaller then 6 feet it will be too big for you. Chest straps are poorly designed they can't move up and down. All straps are too long and only original Thermarest Z lite sleeping pad will fit inside because all others are too long.

[camping_guru_uk]

Hi Andy ... Love your vids, especially your comparison films. I'd love to see a comparison vid of this 3f ul pack and the Nature hike rock 60+5l pack. Both are very similar to look at and cost. ... Anyway, keep up the good work, I bought the Asta Gear trekking pole tent after your review. Cheers. Gary

[linedwell]

I remember having a 30inch 😭😭

I got to a 17stone and 40 inch waist in January. Dropped a bit now 14stone 36inch. 😁

[AdventuringEden]

What do you think for a 172cm (5'8"), 80kg guy with a 34" waste? I want it to hold my flying gear and some basic camping stuff (no tent), max weight about 8 or 9 kg. Planning a few high hikes with overnight camps on the summit and flights down in the morning so one night trips only. Cheers

[Jimjust]

Another really valuable piece from you Andy. I was considering trying this but now I’m going to bite the bullet and go with the Osprey rook 50l. Keep up the good stuff 😎

[limchoonteck]

Non vented backpack is a big no for me. I live near the equator, too hot and sweaty! Adding the foam pad just got it worst! Hotter. Looking at light and vented options out there.

[cherellegrant]

What do you think is the best budget airflow bag?

[paulbache]

Andy- how have you got on with this and how does it compare to naturehike rock if you have used that. Looking for a 55/60 litre lightweight but can’t afford the mid/top end brands

[toastiesburned]

Pick a system of measurements! I don't mind doing math, but when you throw imperial and metric at the same time I go a little 😖

[WestieWestie]

It sounds like this wouldn't be suitable for the average sized woman? I'm 5'6" and average build, do you reckon I'm to short for it?

[simplyhiking]

Hi Andy. Unfortunately this company are just a poor copy of Atom packs and Hyperlite mountain gear. Who along with others are outstanding cottage industries. I really wish people would support these companies more as it these cottage industries that innovate while others like 3L just come along copy and then mass produce

[graemer]

I have a waterproof 45l tactical pack from Ali express, upgraded with 5 Molle packs. Total is 55L, less than 1kg pack weight in total.

Works fine for me. Only downside is that the pack sits close to my back, so in warm weather I sweat more. I accept this because I also drink home made Isotonic drinks, so sweating / rehydrating is good. I am 6ft 2, 100kg. I don’t feel as fat as that makes me sound :) but means I try and carry not more than 10% of ultralight weight kit.

I think your key point is right - there is a tipping point where if you are carrying extra weight the frame is worth it.