Grigri descending

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Two ways to descend with the Grigri. One lowering, one rappelling.
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Thanks for the good video. I feel like it's important to note that the very last video clip is what it looks like when retrieving your rope - NOT what it should look like when rappelling. That should be obvious to an experienced climber, but I could see a less experienced climber maybe being confused. Rappelling on the wrong strand in that setup is actually called falling - DANGER.

enderss
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Short and sweet. Nice info, will remember this when I inevitably forget my ATC someday

Froggyc
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Just a note to viewers: being someone who has developed many routes in San Miguel de Allende MX, spending alot of time (and money) on installing anchor hardware, lowering yourself through the hardware puts unnecessary wear on that gear which takes time and money to replace, so PLEASE always descend using the blocking knot and fixed-rope method. It puts way less wear on the hardware.

TommyMacMXClimber
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I use the first method when I can walk to the top of the route to set a top rope anchor and don't want to walk back down. Super handy. I'm gonna use the second method so I can retrieve the rope too now.

noodlesthest
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Great video. Short and sweet, straight to the point. Excellent sound as well.

oskarsaks
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Excellent demo. The first method especially is often overlooked. This might be obvious, but the absolute number one rule of blocks is that it absolutely cannot have a chance of passing through your anchor. With large rings like this, tt might be better to do a carabiner block rather than a knot block. Other than that minor observation, nice technique, and I appreciate you keeping the video short and sweet.

johngo
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Appreciate the info dude! Just subscribed as well.

radbikeshredgnar
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First method should be used with caution, alot of rope movement compared to a regular rappel so in saxon sandstone for example you shouldnt do it because youll cut the rock with the rope like that.

HochstartHarry
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Hello i didn’t understand the use of the second rappel option. If you do this you leave materials on the wall 🤔

clee
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Karsten,

When lowering yourself using the first method here, what is going on at the bottom with the end of the rope? Do you remain on belay from your belayer or are you just eating up what’s left of the rope on the deck? Suppose this is where it is critical to have barrel knots at the ends of the rope as well? Congrats on your recent cert!

jesseh
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the brake line the gri gri is attached to does it have to be long enough to touch the ground? probably right ? lol

bboyorc
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Thanks for the info!! In what situations is the first option used and in wich the second?? Thank you very much

kakalo
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What is the vest way to ro this with your partner after a multipitch sport route??

DanielsanTVs
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Shouldn't one use an prusik or some other redundancy when rappelling? As much as I trust my grigri, just descending on a grigri alone seems mighty risky to me.

ericandrews
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Question from a beginner whos learning multi techniques etc (with a guide - just doing some precursory research) only experienced in single pitches... If the rope was over a sharp ledge here Lowering would be technically safer because the rope is in constant movement. Whereas with rappeling the risk of the rope being cut is increased as the same piece of rope is in constant friction with the rock.... is this correct ?

william_lynch
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After you’ve tied off the right side how do you retrieve the rope when you’re on the ground, just by pulling through the right hand side?

chasejohnson
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Hi Karsten, got this recommended :). Tbh, I dont see a situation where I would prefer this over repelling with reverso + third hand. I just feel like there is not enough backup with the grigri if I suddenly get hit by a stone and drop both hands, you could add a prusik tho.

And a quick question: Whats your opinion on the texas rope trick if you cant finish a route? Usefull, or do you just leave a quickdraw carabiner or a quicklink?

MegaMarineever
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Which one would you say is the safest? the second one has a little bit less rope due to the knots, so I am tempted to always use the first one...

lx
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Captain! On this last trip I have rapped with the Grigri. That moment of transition from the leash to the G was intense!

OffBelay_
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Are you located in Michigan by any chance?

anthonymaglio