Ici Londres: 'A worst-of-all-worlds Brexit'

[lakiify]

From Poland go for it hard exit leed the wey !!

[twoshedsjackson]

This Brexit "deal" is straight out of the TV series "Yes, Minister". You offer a solution that is totally unacceptable to everyone, then after everyone throws their toys out of the pram, after "tough renegotiation" you come back with the deal you really want, which, in contrast to the first offering, now seems a much better deal, and it is then accepted when it too would have been rejected had you offered it in the first place. We need to be very wary of the REVISED "final deal" in a few weeks. Double glazing salesmen call it "rejection and retreat".

[christophermanners]

May to Remainers: you need to support my deal, otherwise there'll be a no-deal Brexit!
May to Brexiteers: you need to support my deal, otherwise there'll be NO Brexit!
May to Corbyn today: stop playing both sides, saying something different to each side!

Her shameless hypocrisy, her contempt for the voters and for parliament itself, is staggering.

[andkipling]

We need more than 2 minutes and 36 seconds, Dan.

[dm]

Michael Gove has much to answer for. There could have been a Brexit PM, Gove torpedoed that chance, getting us here. And now, when his resignation and 1922 letter is needed, he fucking doubles down with May's Brexit betrayal. Gove is the villain of this whole thing, way more than May.

[jonathaneddy]

The May/Barnier deal is the most spiteful piece of cynical political manoeuvring I have ever seen.

[selwyn]

Well said Daniel. It's a disaster unfolding.

[dlbusters]

What has happened to my country? The slow drip of cultural marxism, that's what.

[MarjorieMay-kcls]

Theresa May is getting paid for doing this. It is a part of World order that they want to keep going. There are 200 million Africans due to come into Europe. Part of World order and as many ethnic minority’s as they can bring into Europe. We have to vote for a Party that will get us out of the EU and that would be UKIP OR FOR BRITAIN. FOR BRITAIN AANST TO DESTROY THE EU TOO NOT JUST LEAVE THE EU. YOU HAVE TO BE BRAVE AND LEAVE THE OLS PARTIES BEHKND.

[miketrainor]

I have listened to Daniel for some time now and for the life of me cannot remember disagreeing with any of his comments. I just wish his messages could be heard more widely, he is so pragmatic. Maybe when he is free of his MEP membership he will seek a more public UK office. I fear by that time it may be too late.

[jonathanevans]

Brexit 2018 - European 1848 “You never actually own the country: You merely look after it for the next generation”.
1918 - Swiss General Strike, Spanish Flu, German Humiliation at Versailles?
It's a pity the people have come to believe they are better without a "homeland" country and would rather give allegiance to an unknown, unelected autocracy.
The Brexit situation is incompetence beyond belief but ignorance and arrogance is never the best mix of skills to deploy. It certainly was not a negotiation.
The idea a Nation State cannot recover its sovereignty from a collective agreement with a group of other Nation States accepts the EU is, in fact, a take-over.
This Brexit capitulation could be considered analogous to the one-sided negotiation of the Treaty of Versailles and will likely have similar ramifications to the UK competitiveness, economy and independence.
In or out, it is the “EU State” that must be realigned with the realities of the global economy and European societal stability.
Ask what the EU provides the nationals of each Nation State? - Success in the societal and financial security for each Nation or just a seemingly totalitarian bureaucracy serving only its own existence?
Ask the mass of young people of the southern States of Europe who are unable to find a career if the EU has been a success. Ask if they see the legacy of the socialisation of a generation of debt caused by fictional growth, the burden of student debt, of unobtainable homes, is a success. Ask if they believe they still have the ability to change government at the 'whim' of the people; if they still have democracy. Ask if they believe the can elect intelligent, experienced, socially motivated representatives.
The EU bureaucracy must be culled to a minimum for an exchange for innovation, knowledge transfer and collaboration in trade and social stability. No European Flag of State. No pictures of the unelected governors.
It must act under the Nation States for the people of each European Country; people who remain Nationals of their founding homeland; these are not European citizens but the peoples of Europe.
Great Britain must play its leading part in this realignment: If not we risk a return to the unrest of 1848 and 1918.
Is this the centenary of European salvation remembered?
On the 11/11th did the world need to listen to the improper use of a day of reverence of two world wars, the affront by a globalist corporate stooge who has usurped a once proud French Nation?
Nationalism, they say, is the enemy of patriotism; an odd view of an antonym?
Not so long ago, in the fields, in the towns, the clouds, and on the beaches, the intelligence of young blood flowed.
Why sacrifice the culture of a thousand years, of innovation, of societal stability, of wealth, the future generation, only to surrender to a corporatocracy takeover.
The corporate cause of steel and wheat has become the Nations’ defeat.
What Frankenstein did the Nations States’ create?
An “EU State”; with its pictures of flag and emperor, EU run military and rule of law supreme?
Suffrage is lost under such yoke: no longer the freedom of dissent, no more freedom to vote, no more the whim of the people to decide their fate.
When did we desire to surrender to this unelected autocracy?
No, this Brexit has not been a negotiation. It's a capitulation designed to forever stymie the UK competitiveness, personal freedoms, and a centre for future foreign direct investment in business and innovation.
Any negotiation commences on the basis of both parties want an agreement. It requires clarity of the criteria you want to be met and an understanding of what one expects the corresponding party wants. It accepts there must be the basis for a mutually beneficial outcome.
What did the EU want? On whose behalf was the EU negotiating? Which of the Nation States and for what benefit?
What benefit does the EU provide the UK? Is this Free Trade? Really? Of course, mutually beneficial trade exchange between UK and European markets is critical. This is true between all countries around the world; we all need competitive trading and one that benefits from innovation and efficiency in cross-border logistics and security.
The "UK Plc" depends upon the innovation, competitiveness and efficiency of UK's businesses. But, this demands control on the economy and societal stability; control the EU seeks to subvert.
So, Brexit is not about insurmountable problems in logistics or the Irish border; ports operate in other parts of the world without being in the EU single market, visit Switzerland's many crossings with EU, assess the minimal value of trade transported across Ireland.
Why has the UK been, “…trying very hard, with many hours, trying very hard”, as Ms May says? Has the EU been, “Trying very hard”?
Will the German tax-payers be happy to pick up the lost of UK payments to the EU?
Why has the UK “negotiated” with this "Representative" Body, an institution we fund, from a position of weakness?
Why does anyone believe that the UK, France, Spain, Italy, Germany etc cannot survive as an independent Nation State? Is the UK so unique it cannot act as many Nations do and who trade under WTO or under mutually better terms agreed with the European States?
Why does anyone accept there is an “EU State” with which we need to be subservient if we are to be able to trade?
Why pay €40bn++ for the pleasure of the humiliating destruction of UK’s competitiveness and loss of sovereignty? One can only wonder if the Government’s ‘negotiating’ team were, in fact, working for the EU.
Of course, the UK is an integral community of the people of Europe. But Europe is not a 'country'.
And, it is not that the EU should be blamed for Brexit. It is that as the "EU State" is being extended under an autocratic, unelected, and unaccountable rule.
Moreover, the EU State does not deliver wealth and stability to all the people of Europe, especially in the southern Countries (e.g. Italy, Spain, Greece).
A stable society is founded on the people's will and their belief that their needs at a local level are properly represented by the governing body they elect; a body they can call-out if it does not enact what the people want and one they can remove at their whim.
The EU, as it is being deployed, is no longer fit for this purpose. Governing 300m+ people with differing societal, economic and cultural traits cannot be sustainable without proper representation for all the people and this has never proved a viable democratic model. Indeed, it turns into a totalitarian rule focused on its own existence.
The real concern with the aim of the people's vote for Brexit is that UK politicians are not acting under some intelligent Machiavellian strategy to remain in the EU under the worse terms of any other Nation State (inc. USA, Canada, Switzerland, Norway, or India and China..).
No, it is the reality that all our ‘professional’ inexperienced politicians are so incompetent and duplicitous that the un-elected EU bureaucrats needn’t get out of bed to get their way; we can only be embarrassed.
...Dancing in the dark has a new meaning…
Italians should take note

[Jennyeq]

Remember seeing Daniel on TV before the vote telling me 'absolutely no one is talking about us losing our place in the single market'. Maybe I'm old fashioned... but liars should be held to account.

[michaelfillingham]

Anyone would think we were trying to join the EU the things have been going so far.

[mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm]

It's all getting a bit scary. Do you think we would have had this on the table if Theresa hadn't called the election?

[EnglishTurbines]

Its Mays "Deal" or No way, its spent 2 1/2 YEARS Plotting it.

[bad]

The never ending backstop thing is something I don't understand, they say we cant leave it without the EUs agreement but what are the consequences if we do?

[alphalobster]

As much i hate it, It is plainly obvious that if this does not go through, there will be another referendum. Just get this carbuncle across the line and then get the deal done. This agreement is not the same as being permenantly in a customs union, that is the backstop to no deal.

[thearcadian]

Why are you telling us shit we already know Dan? Do something about it and get the fuck on with it man! May needs to go and it needs to happen NOW!