ESO - NIGHTBLADE INVISIBILITY CHANGED! - U44

As per usual update 44 for the elder scrolls online comes with some adaptations to skills, passives, and combat in general. This time the Nightblade was hit with a bit of a curve ball by changing how it's INVISIBILITY skill works! You will NO LONGER have infinite nightblade stealth. You will have to WORK for it! Yup it's a toggle and during that time, your magicka recovery is NUKED!

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[giantmonkee]

patch 44...You want to be stealthy? Hide in shadows? Nope. Shrink potion? Nope. Strap a banner to your back nearly doubling your height? Yes

[ExitusPax]

You demonstrated that NBs can still perma-invis, but that isn't the real problem. The real problem is that in a PvP environment, NBs fade in and out of invisibility for repositioning and mind-games. While the change may be as simple as "We can't use invis as much", it is much worse when you consider how it is used. NBs would use the 3 seconds of invis to get a Heavy attack > ability weave. Due to the 1 second global cooldown, we had 2 seconds to perform whatever attack we wanted to pull off. We would register in our heads that doing this would cost around 4500 Magicka, less depending on our gear or race. With this change, we only have 1 second after the GCD to do whatever we are going to do before the Invisibility cost ticks again. This means the act of simply going into Invisibility to reposition for an attack is going to cost NBs a lot more Magicka than it does now IN ADDITION to their recovery being disabled.

This disproportionally affects NBs who use Shadowy Disguise to fight instead of perma-stealth or run away.

[NtroWrwlf]

Just when I started to enjoy Nightblade again... 🤦‍♂️

[steveng]

I love how eso sends this guy for damage control each time they do something stupid.

[dorilensink]

Nightblades are squishy compared to other classes. Stealth is their survivability.

[callsignlobo]

Yeah you can be invis permanently....crouch.
Literally all classes have access to this 'skill'.
Kinda feels like like killing the useful and defining skill of a nightblade.
Nightblades don't have the tankiness of dk's or the shields of sorcs they have/had stealth.

Stealth is countered by:
1. Detect pots
2. Detect skills
3. Aoe dmg sets/skills
4. Sticky dots
Basically it makes it similar to vampire's blood frenzie, which is imo a contender for worst skills in eso, not good to be similar to that.

One final thing, yes you can build a nb to be permanently invis...
you can build a dk/necro that just blocks defensive even with 10 people beating on
You can make a templar/warden that can hit a whole group with 10k of heals every second one stubbs their toe....
You can make a sorc that streaks across the map when they're even slightly in danger or refresh 20k shields every 2
You can build arcanists with 40k health, huge recoveries, constant shields, and a ton of

The idea that the nightblade is so uniquely powerful to need such a class breaking change is hilariously shortsighted.
As annoying as it is to hunt nightblades in stealth, its also annoying to deal with every other pvp build Ive described.
Just my two cents.

[Danny-ev]

This will 100% not work fighting literally ANY ball groups on comms and group comp. 1 detect pot, 1 dot on you and you’re done. Completely done for. This destroyed anybody who solo mains nb.

[True_Blood_]

I hate NBs, I really do. I've hated them from the first time I entered Cyro back in 2017...I hate them more than those filthy sorcs. However, even my hatred isn't enough to side with ZOS on this. What they're doing here is just a bloody outrage!

[therealesttsalagi]

This is trash. There are skills that pull me out of stealth, detect pots that let people see me from a 100meters away, dots that can pull me out of stealth. Literally unfair.

[soggyfry]

This change makes no sense. Way to many things counter invis in pvp anyways. A balanced nerf would be to nerf it the same way steak was. And if you are going to mak it this, then you should also make that damage thing affect players

[blktauna]

This is a foolish change to the core identity of the NB. Toggles are dumb. I'm not even remotely on board with this.

[Kovuhiko]

Yet another Counter to NB invis, So let's recap how to counter NB invis
- Detection Potions and Poisons - Revealing Flare - Sentry set - Cp for increase detection Radius - Another Nb using Mark - Inner Light - Inner Beast - Structured Entropy Heal dot - Ele Sus Dots - ANY Type of AOE - Sea Serpent Coil to avoid Gankers First Hit - Am i missing something?
While in the Meantime, Let's Talk about how to Counter Sorcerer Streak:
- Gap closer -
Very Balanced :) Have a Good day

[zvency]

Yeah I’m gonna toggle my eso plus off on this one. Haha

[ShadowofLegacy]

There goes your fun thieving ninja build :/

[Kyoril]

Fun fact: The resource granting bonus of a full set Darloc Brae negates the mana drain. Even while you are in motion. Plus. So long as you do not fail an attempt on picking pockets, or lockpicking a chest, or moving from one instance to another. IE zone travel or moving through any doorways. You will always remain invisible. In large market areas such as Davon's watch and stormhold. I was able to go invisible. Run around. Pick every guards pocket and open every merchant chest without losing stealth. RNGesus really came through for me that night. Dirty deeds, blessed by Deets. (Diety)

[phillyz_]

cant think of a dumber way to nerf that skill

[Flex-yvlj]

Thanks for the answers, I was just looking at how to maximise the stealth in PVP, as the mag cost makes my current build ineffective and basically unworkable in a practical sense, You have given me some good ideas, Thanks

[Against.Lies.]

That's such a cheek... You invest a lot of time, gold and even money in your Nightblade, and then the Nightblade is devalued to the last drop... That makes me angry. The main thing is that Sorc and Warden become a god class.... Then ZOS should also make the current meta tank groups and damage shields useless! ZOS is ruining the whole game by now (and that's not just my opinion). What else should give me as a preferred PVP player the incentive to continue supporting the game (e.g. through Eso plus, crown store etc.)?

[Oikolukuhirvi]

Main reason for the invisibility skill for me has always been to just run through places without having to engage mobs every 3 seconds.

[theperfectgame]

I was hoping they would just make it work like sorc streak with increasing cost each time cast