Why Have Democrats Failed to Reduce Inequality? (Lily Geismer Interview)

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Broadcast on July 14, 2022

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[alistairmackintosh]

There was not a failed attempt to solve inequality, there was a successful attempt to increase inequality.

[iball]

I love David's interviews. He always has on an interesting person and talks about an interesting topic. It's nice to see him step away from mainstream political events and talk about this kind of stuff.

[seanm]

Reducing inequality was not their goal, and certainly not that of the donors.

[Hermessio]

How can you fail something you never even tried to do nor ever wanted to do

[okayfine]

Because they support the oligarchy. That's what their donors pay them to do

[carsonwieker]

Great & important interview/convo, much appreciated, cheers!

[AntonyC]

Lack of political will. Corruption. Republican obstruction. That’s what comes to mind 🤷‍♂️

[marome]

If the US had better education, social security and didn't seperate between people as much as you do, then you would also be "homogenous". It's super bizarre that you call Scandinavian countries homogenous when we have a percentage of foreigners and immigrants that is very close to have many there are in the US. We're not homogenous, we're just considerate humans.

[horacio]

The logic of using alternative capitalist models in place of socialized ones was always - to do away with the socialist model. It was a feature not a bug. A rationalization by the Democrats to the Republicans that would allow them to, as politicians, remain electable in a media environment that is defined by the establishment. The problem is they needed to argue for both, and the progressive side never the primary caucus, cannot keep the conversation from becoming - un-nuanced - "socialism bad, capitalism good". There's no question, in even a modest period of time, that a functioning democratically regulated capital market is a better model for elevating the downtrodden. Accompanied by a commitment to *socially* support the least of us, the potential is even greater. Now though, the 'have's' have convinced the 'nearly have's' to punch down at the 'definitely have not's'.

[marvintpandroid]

Joe "Nothing would fundamentally change" Biden

[edvance]

and had it worked she would have left micro financing out of her book. how about the huge corporate financing that is sucking this countries present day federal funds and probably the next 2 to three generations incomes dry. how is helping the bottom 90% of the population succeed bad, when it helps them to buy the products that most companies sell on the markets. please explain it to me, in lay mans terms.

[captain_context]

This woman telling us Northern Europe got it all figured out, but have huge issues with immigration. This woman doesnt know what shes talking about. In american eyes, every country has issues to weigh up for all their good sides. Hence we can always blow it aside and say "Northern Europe has other problems, so nobody is perfect" and then move on with zero action. Which is what america has become. Absolutely stagnant in everything. Unable to pull to either direction.

[captain_context]

I havent heard a word she said... Im constantly interrupted by her AM, AM, AM for every 5th word. How weird.

[SCL]

Reagan tends to get credit for the (economically) right turn in politics due to his rhetoric (as well as rewritten history), but Carter, Clinton and Gingrich did most of the work.

[scottanderson]

it's not about equality it about getting a guarantee voting blocked.

[cjmarl]

As long as the military gets the unsustainable amount of half of all tax revenue in the US equality can't happen.

[NefariousEnough]

It is impossible to refine the mind of the radicalized cultists. To try is a waste of time.

[hopefulforhumanity]

I'm not a fan of equality of outcome. I AM a fan of equality of opportunity.

[mrfuzztone]

Combine the insights of Lily Geismer with those of Thomas Frank in Listen Liberal. I ordered her book.
There should be federal investment in public schools not dependent on local tax revenues.

[Archangel]

The 3rd industrial revolution in the 90's (computers) and the current 4th industrial revolution (automation) have been the main drivers of inequality, just like the 1st and 2nd industrial revolutions did in the previous world order. They went from Rockefellers and roaring 20's to fascist uprising and great depression. In America the answer was democratic socialism with FDR leading us into some of the US's best decades. Other countries saw more violent results. Inequality and steep power hierarchy is unsustainable and leads to violence. Power transfers in one of two ways, it is given or taken. This is true today on a global and national scale.