Metamodern Spirituality | Development, Individual and Cultural: A Deep Dive (w/ Daniel Görtz)

Metamodern sociologist Daniel Görtz joins Brendan Graham Dempsey to dig deeper into the nuances of developmental theory and how it can be applied at the individual and collective levels. Are individuals "at" a stage of development, or do they occupy a range of complexity? With all the distributional ranges involved in individual development, how can we make assessments about entire cultural worldviews? Daniel digs into the nuances of the Model of Hierarchical Complexity, exploring unpublished theories and ideas of Michael Commons and himself as they relate to thinking about conceptual complexification for people and societies.

0:00 Introduction

🚹 Part I: Individual Development
2:28 Are People "at" a Stage or Thinking/Behaving Across a Distribution?
5:12 The MHC vs. Holistic, Whole-Person Models
10:11 Transjective Behavioral Complexity: Context and Scaffolding
25:17 Cognitive Ranges, Cognitive Ceilings
30:22 Piaget and Beyond

🔣 Part II: Cultural Development
33:04 Are Ideas "at" a Stage?
42:16 Are Cultural Worldviews "at" a Stage?
56:44 The Dynamics of Cultural Evolution
1:20:36 Pattern and Medium
1:32:16 Problems and Progress: Nothing for Granted

[HigherSofia]

It would be extremely interesting and very valuable for the community if someone hosted a conversation between Dave Snowden, Daniel Smachtenberger, and Daniel Görtz. These three bring together unique perspectives on complexity, systems thinking, the metacrisis and cultural evolution that could lead to a really deep, challenging and fruitful discussion.

Snowden’s focus on “scaffolding” and his skepticism of holistic thinking would be a fascinating counterpoint to Görtz’s metamodern vision of integrating new cultural narratives. I believe Smachtenberger could help bridge the two, given his work on meta-crisis solutions and civilization design and overall temperament in talks.

It’s a conversation that could really push the boundaries of where we’re at, and leave us with some precious jewels by the end of it.

[tomvarrall]

‘Boil me in the middle of the sun’ funny example

[ChrisSudlik]

lol did you really block me on facebook right after I bought your book because I was critical of The Integral Movement? I was going to give it a careful and thoughtful review, but your attitude reiterates the issues I pointed out with integralism in my recent substack and is reflected in the content of the book. I'll be sure to do a thorough, page by page tear down of exactly how and why your abuse and appropriation of eastern culture is improper, inaccurate, and immoral.