World of Tanks - Object 252U Defender

Показать описание

A new Premium Tier VIII heavy tank with a machine gun and an accordion. Today we are going to talk about the tank's strengths and weaknesses, what its benefits are, and how you can utilize them.

Follow us on

Twitter:

Рекомендации по теме

Комментарии

How to play Object 252:
1. Buy it
2. Press W
3. Win

Airrivalsgamer

You know something is wrong when you show up this tank against tier Xs immediately.

"Defender" - push agressivly.
Soviet war logic at it finest.

Phanty

Mobile, Tier X hull armor, Tier IX gun.

Yup... OP as hell. Its 'weak spot' lower frontal glacis has the same effective armor as the upper frontal armor of an IS-3.

IanSumallo

German Auto Loading Tank That Has A 150MM Gun: Kicked Out
Soviet Tank That Has An Amour Same As The IS-7 And Has Its Gun Powered: Adds In The Game

haisesasaki

2:26 "not for sniper fire" THE SHOT WENT ALMOST EXACTLY WHERE HE AIMED IT FFS, HE JUST CANT SHOOT

Saltmineworker

You said it yourselves, tier 6 and 7 tanks won't stand a chance. Where's the game balance?
Where's your "pay-to-progress not pay-to-win" policy?

hampusjohansson

How to play Obj252U?

Press W and left mouse button.

marundiir

Can't believe that they have made a guide for this tank...

jaworski

What happened to the idea that premiums were supposed to be better than stock vehicles of the same tier but not as good as fully upgraded ones? Making what is essentially a tier 9 tank a tier 8 premium isn't balanced.

stuartcollier

You need a video for this?
Press W and hide lower plate
DONE
Pay to win incoming

WilliamInJP

This tank is just not fair in the game. I've spent a ton of money through the years supporting you. But lately the tanks are just released with more and more premium power creep. And this tank is just not fun at all to face for any tier 6 or 7. Even tier 8's struggle to pen a good and well angled 252U.

Claiming that Object 252U is a balanced tank would not be advisable. It is the 7th highest win ratio tank in the game for tanks with over 30k games played (high statistical base value):

Object 252U 53.76 %

beaten ONLY by the following tanks:
IS-2
Object 907 (Reward Tank)
Cromwell B (Premium)
105 LeFH18B2 (Premium)
113
T55A (Reward Tank)

Ok, let's talk raw data here. Comparing similiar type of tanks. Let's see if it is equal or better than the tanks of it's own tier when it comes to the weakspots.

=== ARMOR ===

1. Drivers hatch. It is not a weak spot with 82-85 degrees of angling. Auto ricochet to anything less than a very large tier X gun (ie over 180mm calibre). Tiny tiny 250 armor strip of flat armor there, but that is a huge gamble even with high enough pen gun.

2. Lower Plate. Effective armor in lower plates compared (unangled):
110 : 170-174
112: 192-195
IS-3: 181-189
IS-6: 183-186
WZ-111: 162-164
Obj 252U: 209-212
IS-7: 219-223

Which tier does this lower plate look like to you?

3. Side armor. Effective unangled side armor:
Obj 262U = 200-210 (turret) 170-174 (side) 100-120 (tracks)
112 = 107-158 (turret) 100-164 (side) 120-135 (tracks)
IS-6 = 150 (turret) 129 (side) 100-122 (tracks)
IS-3 = 91-173 (turret) 100-204 (side) 90-110 (tracks)
IS-5 = 121-245 (turret) 157-210 (side), 80-105 (tracks)
IS-7 = 235-420 (turret) 195-248 (side) 112-120 (tracks)

4. Cupolas. Wide but very very flat targets. It is even less in size than the hatch on the Tier 9 - VK 45.02 (P) Ausf.B. It has roughly the same area coverage as the cupolas on the Tier 9 T10, but with MUCH better armor on the Object 252U.

Yes, they are a weak spot. Yes it has two of them. But compared to tanks like 110, 112, WZ-111, IS-5, it has tiny cupolas. They are almost exactly the size of the IS-6's cupolas. And they cover roughly the same exposed area as the T-10. And they are MUCH better armored than the T-10's cupolas and the IS-6's. Balanced? It has 50-200% more armor on its cupolas than the T-10, and has better angling for bouncing than the tier 9 tank.

252U: 150 mm (150-370 - a lot better shape on these cupolas for random bounces on the sides)
T-10: 100 mm (effective armor 100-180)

=== Gun ===

1. Gun depression = 6 degrees

Main competitors:

IS-3: 5 degrees
IS-3 A: 5 degrees
IS-5: 5 degrees
110: 6 degrees
IS-6 = 6 degrees
112 = 6 degrees

Some of the best mediums in the game (Soviet Tier X - high dpm - good enough gun depression to use a lot of hull down spots):
T-62A = 5 degrees
Obj 140 = 6 degrees

So this tank can use a lot of good spots to go hull down and combined with its insane armor proceed to weather a full storm of shots.

2. Damage

Gun handling is poor. Aim time is poor. Reload is poor. But it gets 440 alpha damage. That is just how the trade goes in the whole game, regarding the whole tank design philosophy that Wargaming employs. The higher alpha, the exponentially worse aim/aim time/reload it gets. It is a beast at trading shots with 440 alpha + 225 pen. It gets the highest alpha damage among tier 8 heavies together with the VK100.01(P). And very good pen to go with that.

Source: www.tanks.gg

And using the argument "Flank the tank to kill it" works on ANY tank in the game. There are no tanks in the game that aren't vulnerable if flanked. An M1 Abrams compared to a Tiger II would have weaknesses according to that logic. One could always argue the case the if the Tiger II shot it from the side it would pen the Abrams because of the flat side armor. But the M1 Abrams is still a better tank. Much better.

It is just way way too strong for Tier 8 in it's current state. And I am about to consider quitting the game. So are a lot of my friends. I average (roughly) 58% wins in the last 1000 games and 2000-2100 wn8. I'm not the best player, but I know what I'm doing and talking about. Many games I play that thing is manned by player much worse than me, and they usually just charge in, bounce hordes of shots and get to deal 3-4 pens. Then they die. But the chaos they create gets everyone else killed by his friends. The armor just eats all the damage potential of that front line completely with its over powered armor.

So currently me and many of my friends are considering quitting the game. Sadly. Such a good game, that has started to really be ruined by greedy premium power creep. It just feels sad..

Garakh

2:42 "Relying on RNG" Wargaming you know that's a bad thing right?

thomash

Time to stop wasting money on this game...

Catbunz

GG....Totally not another OP Soviet Tank! That's totally not OP when it have armor of IS-7....and a pricetag of a full game!!! You don't have enough money you billionaire bastards? When someone says that you will waste that money on new maps or game improvements, everybody will just laugh because they know you will just fuck up the game even more and for the maps...another reskin of Prochorovka.

alloutlife