Can Germany have it both ways with China, cooperation AND rivalry? | Berlin Briefing Podcast

China doesn’t hold all the cards, but it is already calling some major shots on European trade and security. Where that leaves Germany as Europe’s largest economy, is at the core of this week’s Berlin Briefing. DW’s Chief International Editor Richard Walker maps out the fact Germany’s chancellor and foreign minister still have “profoundly different views of the relationship that Germany has with China.” This fuels indecision between cooperation and rivalry and meets Chinese pro-trade “pragmatism”, a strategy DW’s Taiwan Bureau Chief Tsou Tzung Han warns could leave Germany’s security interests unaddressed. DW’s Chief Political Editor Michaela Küfner hosts this edition of Berlin Briefing that unpacks some tough policy questions on China that the next German government will have to address.

Key discussions include:

Why there is and isn’t a link between Taiwan and Ukraine
How China’s silence on supporting Russia serves both sides
Why trade often trumps security concerns on China
How Germany’s role in Asia is limited
Why German diplomats are so impressed with China’s official lunch

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[caomilo]

Funny. China never talks about rivalry with Germany but only cooperation, repeatedly stated. It’s Germany that put out this rivalry vs cooperation paradox that confuses itself.

[comatex-qv]

Instead of speculating on China, You better remedy on the destruction of nord stream
And the devastating effect it had on German industry

[JW-rxul]

Some 10-15 years ago, the GDP of the EU is larger than the US, around double that of China. Today, it is almost half of the US, and less than China. If this is the best European media can do in terms of analysis it's not hard to predict where its economy will be in another 10-15 years.

[Lagoost]

Germany.. Not a real independent country..

[sipcore]

Who tapped Merkel's cellphone? Germany has amnesia😂

[dgs]

Taiwan is the wrong party to discuss objectively about China. As far as I know, Germany follows the One-China policy. One must have a balanced China policy, and deriscing is a faulty proposition.

[Senen-lz]

German territory is 3.5% of China and German population is 6% of China. China is ancient, inventor, innovator, hard working and smart. Who needs who is clear and known.

[Wiersq]

It is not surprised that when DW talks again about China, the experts they find are basically from Taiwan, so-called Western experts who have never been to China.
This only shows that DW just wants to broadcast those anti-China voices, regardless of how representative and authoritative these voices are.
But this is really ironic for a media that shouts about freedom and democracy every day.

[TienyeeTien]

China:would u make the same title about America 🇺🇸?
DW: 😰daddy will be so mad

[Dihorse]

Brought in an “expert” from Taiwan to talk about China? 😂😂😂

[hotoneten]

I stopped taking DW seriously as a news channel when they brought in Gordon Chang as a China expert on one of their panel discussions. This is just another one of their rubbish discussions!

[tthex]

Germany is over rating it's importance to China. They need China more than the other way 😂😂😂😂 This is not 1860

[hpw-wsbj]

Have it both ways and rivalry? That's only for sovereign countries. Germany is not one of them.

[GuyHappy-jm]

DW, can you live without China ? You hate to see China's success and grumble a lot about China day and night, like a lovelorn guy. Avail yourself to see a psychiatrist.

[slavenaljinovic]

China is really terrified when Bearbock comes and threatens them😂😂😂😂😂😂

Always these Cold war narratives

Always confrontation with China

Always confrontation with Russia.

Lets not forget that Taiwan is an integral part of China.

[kam-js]

How would this Taiwan guy be viewed as expert person of talking about Peking Germany relation? How can what he said be remotely possibly unbiased?

[kirkhoo]

Baerbock has been offending China on a daily basis. Beijing received her because Beijing cherish the relation with Germany and the mechanism laid down there.

[jeffrythoksapan]

German media no guts to talk about America? Pls show some respect to your own country.

[karolmsaki]

Yes China is everywhere in the world peaceful helping people to move forward with lives

[jonpaul]

I got big respect of china. Being a second largest economy without significant military and violence threat over other nations!