The First Cause Argument

The First Cause Argument for School

[tedgrant]

1. It is proposed that everything has a cause.
2. We know from quantum mechanics and theology that many people think that some things are not caused.
3. Therefore, some people think that proposal number 1 is false.

[LogicAndReason]

Best argument in favor of atheism yet! Even better argument against theism than the Koran.

[frosted]

No, there is no evidence that would suggest that everything was ever at a "single point". There is evidence that everything was closer together, but that evidence also points to space being closer together. In this context, space can infinitely regress, so there is no such thing as a "single point" where everything exists. Everything existed everywhere and space expanded rapidly. At this time, the "cause" is a non sequitur as time did not exist until the expansion.

[musaimran]

There is evidence to suggest that everything was once at a single point, Scientific and Religious evidence. How can you be sure it is wrong anyway? The point of the video was to give examples of cause and effect and explain Thomas Aquinas's argument.

[musaimran]

@gamingwonder568 Init bro. Thinks he knows it all

[jillum]

The very second that you even suggest the concept of "a first cause" then you have created _two_ categories: a) Things that _have_ a cause (like computers, pencils, broken glas, people, planets, etc) and b) thing(s) that do _not_ have a cause. Now the question of course is to find out what it is that is in category b. You're suggesting that it's God. However. You've skipped a step. You observe the universe and ask what the cause behind the universe was. In other words, when you look at the universe you automatically put it in category a. And that's where I'm waving category b in front of you asking if you'd like to show how you knew where to put it. How you know that the universe as a whole belongs in category a and not b.

[frosted]

Wrong, everything did not start from a single point. A singularity is a scientific term for "We don't know what's going on here, yet.". And just because space and time were closer together does not mean they were ever at a single "point". This is a misnomer derived from philosophy, not science.