New Evidence of a Global / Rolling Shutter Hybrid

Is Nikon’s Reinventing the Camera Sensor with a Global / Rolling Shutter Hybrid?
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0:00 Global & rolling shutter sensor
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[michaelmalodrums]

The speed of global shutter and providing dynamic range of a rolling shutter . That would seriously be a game changer .Add in the Red 3D raw colour science . 👌🏼

[andrewmason]

If Nikon can pull this off, it will be yet another extraordinary story for the company many were predicting its demise not that long ago.

[etienneswart]

Refreshing to see you discussing Nikon
I take your say so as credible ❤
Greetings from Johannesburg South Africa

[jessejayphotography]

I could see Nikon using RED sensor technology in their flagship Z9. Basically, taking the Komodo X VV sensor and adapting it.

[WernerBirdNature]

Hi Simon, this patent for a "partially global shutter" seems to me a bit more realistic than the previous one: here they try out different patterns where the pixels are equally distributed over the entire sensor. Combined with AI (of course), they could then attempt to merge the info by correcting the motion of rolling pixels and correcting the dynamic range of the global pixels.
The earlier patent seemed to split the sensor area depending upon actual subjects detected, but I couldn't imagine how on earth they could then blend it into an images without transitioning artifacts ..

[urosjovanovic]

VERY exciting news. Next year is going to be very interesting!

[scotthime]

Nikon is showing signs of being the forward thinker in the industry. Canon and Sony appear to be focusing on frames per second and AI chips. Rolling shutter distortion can ruin a great shot (and does). The ability to bring up detail from shadows can turn an okay photo into an incredible photo. But I don't want to give up one to get the other.

These improvements, if they can deliver, will actually improve the finished product. I don't care which manufacturer wins. Loyalty is earned.

[scottrogers]

I get excited every time I hear global shutter!

[felipeignacioortegaarriaga]

Hey Simon, you remember that I sent you a patent of a global shutter from Nikon, I invite you to analyze it more closely.

[illegalalien]

On a (somewhat) unrelated note, why hasn't Samsung (to my knowledge) ever gotten into the digital camera scene. They've been around a long time like Sony, Canon, Fuji etc with more than enough capital and resources to pull it off (see South Korea for reference) so why haven't they stepped in and really shaken things up?.

[JojoJoget]

Just because the patent is there doesn’t mean it would be on cameras anytime soon or if they are even gonna be used for consumer cameras. There tons of Sony patents on curved sensors, GS medium format sensors etc

[robertatwell]

The RED sensors were global shutters with high dynamic range. When Nikon bought RED they acquired the technology that RED developed for video cameras. In the past that meant 4K and 8K resolution for stills. However, RED had some 12K and 16K resolution video cameras too. How RED accomplished its high dynamic range at the 8K level of video performance was not well known and was still patented proprietary technology. Maybe these Nikon patents are beginning to reveal how Nikon is applying the RED technology to their products. Maybe the global shutter can freeze the action and then use data from the rolling shutter to improve the dynamic range of the global shutter captured image. Two captured images started at the same time with one having a global shutter capture time and the other having the same exposure time but it was box car banded with better dynamic range. Maybe the two images can be combined into one image with the motion control of the lower dynamic range global shutter and the improved dynamic range of the distorted rolling shutter. Sort of an AI merge of the two images based upon there geometric differences offset by a known time constant.

[NikCan]

Nikon just seen what everyone's else is offering and showing how far they are ahead of the opposition with a Z9 replacement and with the PZ lens show up a video centric range of cameras?

[BobN]

You have to understand how companies use their patent portfolio. They will apply for patents for every variation of their technology, whether or not they really have much merit. The cost of a patent is small by their standards, and getting the patent in serves as an insurance policy, in case they missed something that could have been useful. Looking at the pixel circuit at 2:46 in the video, this would seem to keep the downside of a global shutter, that is the loss in photoelectron capacity and thereby saturation exposure and DR. This loss comes from the presence of a second 'photodiode' in the pixel, here masquerading as the 'capacitor' SC, resulting in only half of the real-estate for a light gathering photodiode compared with a normal pixel. So, this pixel will allow both a global and rolling shutter, but the rolling shutter mode will keep the disadvantages of a global shutter.
There is another problem, of whether Nikon still has the capacity to bring a mass-production sensor to market. They've run out of fab options. They can doubtless find low volume fabs for their scientific and industrial imaging requirements, but for their volume problems, it is doubtful - which is why they have been depending on Sony Semiconductor for all of their current product line. That could be another reason for the patenting activity - it gives them IP to bargain with.

[broncofan]

I had a Nikon Z9 and I sold it because I didn't like the digital look of the photos. Canon doesn't have that look. If I understood what I heard and correct me if I'm wrong. 'Nikon is making their own sensor?'

[Ben_Stewart]

Whilst the heavy hitter YouTube stars of the camera industry go on and on about AF and how AI noise reduction should be the norm from Canon and especially Sony, Nikon are the underdogs with their Z8/9 and partially stacked Z6iii. The Glass is not just affordable but innovative.

[der_vegane_bre]

i dont get it. isnt sony making nikon sensors?

[dris]

Their hybrid stacked sensor isn't that great tbh. The z6III for example has lower dynamic range and worse noise due to the combo, and actually has slower readout than even the R6 II unless you shoot Jpg.