A hands-on look at JetBrains Fleet, the VS Code competitor

Hello everybody I'm Nick and in this video I have for you a hands-on preview of JetBrains Fleet, the next-generation IDE by JetBrains.

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[nickchapsas]

The Fleet team will keep an eye on this comment section, so if you have any questions about the product, leave them as comments and you might get an answer.

[ayushyadav]

One of the most important factor for VS Code's popularity is it being absolutely free. If JetBrains fleet isnt free, it is not gonna give any competition to VS Code imo.

[stratoxlive]

I'm glad that they're bringing out an elegant VSCode alternative, but since vscode is Free I doubt it'll dethrone it

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I actually favor the path VS Code went for with their Language Server Protocol (LSP) approach, because at the end of the day the language authors also build all of the language related tools, highlighting and refactoring tools which has been a better experience for me, and the editor devs develop the editor itself and don't get too much involved in language tools.

For instance like a year ago it annoyed me so much that a JetBrain IDE did not use these language provided features by default in TypeScript and tried to implement their own tools which were supposed to do the exact same things but were very inaccurate.

Something I am missing compared to JetBrain IDE's out of the box experience would be the for instance warnings related to performance which is also a non problem as I use linters both in TypeScript and C# but it needs an initial configuration.

So, in my opinion, JetBrain's approach is rather valuable for languages which do not offer proper infrastructure tools such as a LSP service and linters, which is not the case for languages I use on a daily basis namely C# and TypeScript.

[geeksy]

I love how clean the ui looks. No distraction at all. Love it!

[chadmwest]

I'm curious about the price point. As cool as it is, I can't imagine this selling as much as the language-focused IDEs or gaining the foothold of VS Code if it's not free or _much_ cheaper than their other products.

[modernkennnern]

I love JetBrains products, but VS Code is utilized so much because it's free and it's a solid program (I'd argue Microsoft's best product across their entire company). JetBrains' products are not free. I fear that making Fleet - a plugin-oriented(?) IDE - paid will be detrimental to its plugin marketplace, and by extension its market share.

(I don't know if it will be paid though, but I'd be very surprised if it turned out to be free)

[pelicanoe]

Lots of people seem to want it to get all of VSCode's features, and pretty much become VSCode, but I would definitely be happy with going an alternative way. If it was consistent across the extensions and languages they add, instead of all the VSCode third party extensions and people doing things their own way, I would certainly consider using it for the languages I use the most. It would seem much less cluttered, and feel more lightweight and elegant.
I'm very interested to see where it goes

[theprometheusalpha]

I think they should make an "intermediate mode" where it's not as capable as Smart mode but more lightweight and can do basic suggestions

[lollo]

That moment when, on a modern computer and inside an already fully loaded software, he opens a folder which contains only one file with literally 34 characters in it, and he gets thrilled by the fact that it took less than a second to open: priceless 🤣

Love your content about C# and dotnet programming, go ahead!

[Chapalia]

It will never dethrone VSCode as long as it is not completely free. The pricings of JetBrains products (and other companies) are beyond the reach of the majority of people getting into dev and learning. 200$ a year might seem like nothing in the US or Europe, but it is a lot in other parts of the world.

[sanampakuwal]

Having more competitor is more opportunities to the end consumer, Good News everyone!

[jackt]

If a JetBrains employee reads this, it's a very desperate try, but please invite me to the preview, rust-analyzer support would improve my workflow quite a bit in an instant :(
I registered on Nov 29, but I feel like it will still take some time until I get invited :(

[foljs]

Some random stuff I'd like to see:

(1) a Settings system working like VS Code: e.g. pure JSON if you want, but also with a structured UI presentation available, where extensions can hook-in their options.

(2) Rainbow-brackets like functionality

(3) IS tree-sitter possible?

[PaulSebastianM]

All I want is everything to be non-blocking in my IDEs 😊. No IDE has 100% non-blocking, as in the editor and the UI is not blocked by ANY other IDE process.

[flexdash]

It's fast because it still has very minimal features and doesn't even come close to its competitors. We will see how fast it is when the dev team starts adding everything from A to Z.

[luckylukeskywalker]

I also love that you can attache more folders to one project, because it is as essential as it sounds, as well as the start screen.

[tobilinz_]

Here are my two wishes for fleet to beat vscode:
1. keep it lightweight. I want a simple IDE that can be started up fast to edit simple projects.
2. I don't know if it should be free or paid software but if it is free please make it opensource because that would be one advantage of vscode if fleet wasn't

[techwithtreveen]

In my opinion, vs code is better than any other ide’s becomes it contains so many cool features and the best ide ever

[modernkennnern]

I was at the NDC conference (Never saw you there D: ) and listened to the talk about how JetBrains Rider was made.

I asked them whether or not Fleet was intended to be like their new front-end for their Rider-originating technology of multiple IDEs in one frontend (Rider has IntelliJ Frontend, and ReSharper backend).
They said that was not their intention, which seems a little weird to me - considering they specifically mentioned that they were planning on splitting the front-, and backend like that for all of their IDEs for cross-IDE language features