Jordan Peterson | Hierarchies, Inequality, BIG 5

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Dr. Jordan Peterson is arguably one of the greatest synthesists of ancient spirituality with cutting edge science, uncovering the nature of reality. In this talk we discussed competence hierarchies, wealth inequality, psychometrics, maximizing human potential, and much more. Enjoy.

SHOW NOTES 📝
0:00 Welcome; lobster notice; positive comparison to Tony Robbins
1:25 "Competency hierarchy" discussion, also, "dominance hierarchy"; pure power is an unstable basis; chimpanzee and crustacean examples
9:08 Economic success and IQ; job performance and trait conscientiousness; both saying AND doing the thing
14:10 Hierarchy maintenance includes other hard-working people not in power; "more fat people than starving people"
17:25 Responsibility goes up as you go up the hierarchy; more on competence and its benefits
19:00 Oppression discussion, "wise king and tyrant"; Brothers Karamazov "Grand Inquisitor" story
24:15 Radical left despises competence; the definitive way to make an IQ test and Big 5 model; statistical correlations
28:35 The statistical reality of distributions; listening to the tails
30:26 Career choices by sex, things and/or people
32:28 "There are no right-wing conservatives in psychology; none."
34:36 Confusing theory with fact; more gender difference in occupations
38:15 "Success is disproportionately rewarded"; nonlinear-ness; Google and diversity discussion; "The Great Leveler" by Walter Scheidel mention; Gini coefficients ever-present throughout history
44:34 More on inequality and societal instability and status; "Monopoly", stacking up at zero
48:30 Tech as a resource multiplier; U.S. Armed Forces/83 IQ discussion
51:55 You can't train creativity; MBA screening process; overestimating training
53:50 Liberals and conservatives are BOTH wrong on work; everyone is not the same; "genetic lottery" in Silicon Valley
57:20 Working with cocaine addicts in personal practice; hope for the future
1:01:00 More on inequality, moral burdens, not-simple problems; "Scrooge McDuck money bin" idea; Bill Gates' polio and malaria initiatives mention
1:04:20 Putting money to societal problems; things parents should teach children; positivity across species; Jaak Panksepp research on rats for touch and play questions
1:11:30 More Panksepp, on iterative games, esp. dogs and rats; "emergent reciprocity" points to development of ethics
1:14:18 Universal ethics trading game "brief story"; winning the game vs. winning the set of games; ethics around the game
1:18:46 "Quick dive into science and God"; informed decision-making; Biopreparat story
1:24:01 Ethical direction of scientific query discussion; facts and/or/vs. values; the bomb
1:26:25 Intellectual Dark Web and conversations in society; Carl Rogers mention; "can't force someone to be better"; being intellectually honest is the most interesting
1:30:20 More on having real conversations; "meaningful engagement is the deepest of cognitive instincts"; life is suffering
1:34:00 State of flow is the primary religious experience; more on religious experiences
1:35:03 Simulation Q1: Are we in a computer simulation? "Is A, B?"
1:37:57 Acknowledgement/thanks for Dr. Peterson
1:38:47 Credits

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SHOW NOTES 📝
0:00 Welcome; lobster notice; positive comparison to Tony Robbins
1:25 "Competency hierarchy" discussion, also, "dominance hierarchy"; pure power is an unstable basis; chimpanzee and crustacean examples
9:08 Economic success and IQ; job performance and trait conscientiousness; both saying AND doing the thing
14:10 Hierarchy maintenance includes other hard-working people not in power; "more fat people than starving people"
17:25 Responsibility goes up as you go up the hierarchy; more on competence and its benefits
19:00 Oppression discussion, "wise king and tyrant"; Brothers Karamazov "Grand Inquisitor" story
24:15 Radical left despises competence; the definitive way to make an IQ test and Big 5 model; statistical correlations
28:35 The statistical reality of distributions; listening to the tails
30:26 Career choices by sex, things and/or people
32:28 "There are no right-wing conservatives in psychology; none."
34:36 Confusing theory with fact; more gender difference in occupations
38:15 "Success is disproportionately rewarded"; nonlinear-ness; Google and diversity discussion; "The Great Leveler" by Walter Scheidel mention; Gini coefficients ever-present throughout history
44:34 More on inequality and societal instability and status; "Monopoly", stacking up at zero
48:30 Tech as a resource multiplier; U.S. Armed Forces/83 IQ discussion
51:55 You can't train creativity; MBA screening process; overestimating training
53:50 Liberals and conservatives are BOTH wrong on work; everyone is not the same; "genetic lottery" in Silicon Valley
57:20 Working with cocaine addicts in personal practice; hope for the future
1:01:00 More on inequality, moral burdens, not-simple problems; "Scrooge McDuck money bin" idea; Bill Gates' polio and malaria initiatives mention
1:04:20 Putting money to societal problems; things parents should teach children; positivity across species; Jaak Panksepp research on rats for touch and play questions
1:11:30 More Panksepp, on iterative games, esp. dogs and rats; "emergent reciprocity" points to development of ethics
1:14:18 Universal ethics trading game "brief story"; winning the game vs. winning the set of games; ethics around the game
1:18:46 "Quick dive into science and God"; informed decision-making; Biopreparat story
1:24:01 Ethical direction of scientific query discussion; facts and/or/vs. values; the bomb
1:26:25 Intellectual Dark Web and conversations in society; Carl Rogers mention; "can't force someone to be better"; being intellectually honest is the most interesting
1:30:20 More on having real conversations; "meaningful engagement is the deepest of cognitive instincts"; life is suffering
1:34:00 State of flow is the primary religious experience; more on religious experiences
1:35:03 Simulation Q1: Are we in a computer simulation? "Is A, B?"
1:37:57 Acknowledgement/thanks for Dr. Peterson
1:38:47 Credits

Thanks for tuning in everyone! What do you think is the nature of reality? Let us know in the comments below! :)

SimulationSeries
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Jordan Peterson Starter Pack:

Generally Speaking
The Data On That Is Crystal Clear
And That's That
So Yeah

vexivero
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Listening to this guy gives me hope for humanity, for life, for civilization.

LionelYuPerformances
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This is the best Jordan Peterson talk I've heard. All of the others focus on the politics, left vs right, arguments but here we see him discussing the other problems and phenomena in nuance and detail. I wish it was much longer.

Ahmadaziz
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I am absolutely thrilled to see silicon valley give the brilliant Dr. Jordan Peterson a platform to speak. It's about bloody time.

Milestonemonger
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The interviewer was not well prepared for the conversation but it was fantastic anyways. Thank you for posting

carlotapuig
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The editor just broke the 180 degree rule 3000 times 😂💔 I’m listening to this like a podcast because it’s visually killing me 😶

FuDziWuDzi
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This is one of the best JP interviews out there.

mychief
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Peterson never fails to impress. The whole Tony Robbins into could’ve been done without but Peterson wins. He’s a tonic in a world where empathy has eclipsed reality

honestjohn
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28:00 multiple intelligence, personality
32:49 career choice are based on personality & interest, gender difference
49:45 wealth inequality and iq

polobreak
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From kenya one of those from subsaharan africa watching this

robertgituhu
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Just when you thought JBP was on the right, BAM!, he's on the left.

SecretAgentPaul
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Confusing camera work. Doesn't produce a coherent view of the room. Left-right switched between shots etc.

MusixProu
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I grew up in a time where we knew men and woman are different and it didn't take billions of dollars to prove it

barbaramiller
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"If you tickle rats with an eraser, they laugh ultrasonically." -J.B.P.
1:10:16

uyuyuy
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It was a great privilege to be here. Thank you Simulation for hosting. Thanks a million for coming Jordan. You have no idea what a blessing you are, well, I suppose you must know by now. I hear you’re coming back to SF in May!!
I think the ‘reciprocity with generosity’ moment was a fine one. I wanted to hold up my book as an example of that. Buy a ticket, get a free book thrown in. Next time I won’t be so timid.
I’m almost done with self-authoring. Its a great tool and I have benefitted from it in many ways (at age 59). I always chuckle when I read it on the instructions that it may take up to five hours. How about a year????

AmyMaris
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"You remind me of Tony Robbins"

"I think he's taller..."

"....okay. 'Tiny' Robbins."

scaggly
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To anyone wondering: I was fortunate enough to be in the crowd during this talk, and I can confirm that JBP and the interviewer switched places many times mid-sentence

FlySpleen
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Peterson is a fascinating human being.
I can't get enough of his lectures.
Thank you.

ernieshaw
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You can go for an hour straight listening to this man and still not losing interest not even for a single moment. Watching him speaking is like watching an artist doing his job (dancing, painting, singing etc) live.

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