Is Java EE an Outdated Tech?

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[danpoulsen]

A lot of big companies use the Java Spring Framework and it's definitely worth looking at

[orlovskyconsulting]

Java EE is now Jakarta EE and some companies invested heavily into it, so no way its outdated.

[Luukkaaasss]

If you think that Java is verbose or slow to write, it's because the latest version of Java you used it's probably Java 5.
Try Java 8, 11 and 17 which will be released this September.

Cheers

[garamburito]

Java EE has been renamed to Jakarta Project

[zympf]

Yes, you can use Kotlin for Spring (and Vaadin)

[wawbagel]

All German (and not only) automotive companies are java-based. And that includes old and new projects. It’s either javaEE/jakartaEE or spring (and sometimes quarkus). And when it comes to front end it’s mostly angular. That’s how it it.
And when it comes to how fast you can produce web apps with java - it can be really quick work when you use modern java. Very quick.

[stephengeorge]

Im learning spring. Mostly because its used where i intern at and i have some practical experience with it.

Anyway, im struggling with security and authentication. For those that have experience, can you reconmend any tutorials, or just key terms for me to research into? I want to access api via angular front end btw

[lunarmodule]

I remember well the excitement in the early 2000 :-p "Write once, run everywhere!", Java applets for the Web, etc. Thx

[brettmurphy]

Kotlin is seamlessly transpiled and you can write kotlin apis that work with spring alongside with your older Java apis

[AlexandreZandaoDrummond]

Jakarta EE still has a lot of boilerplate you have to code by hand. I think Eclipse Microprofile implementations have a lot better future in the Java space: programming in kotlin with Quarkus or Micronaut framework in the backend and Angular, React or Vue in the frontend, compiling to native code with GraalVM

[JohnDoe-ejvm]

i cleared 2 interview round and then in final HR interview i as offered 15k PKR per month and after 3 months probation period it will be 30K.
and they said it is reasonable because i am fresh graduate.
i have learned spring boot, hibernate and reactjs . and build 2 projects along with my fyp. market competitive salary ranging from 60k PKR to 150K PKR.
now my question is how to deal in such scenario where HR humiliate by offering such low salary ?
15k PKR == 70 USD at the moment.

[enricosbrighi]

You mean the same goes for Jakarta EE?

[tasheemhargrove]

Is verbosity really that big a deal in the age of advanced IDE's? They have auto completion and a bunch of other features to help you save time writing boiler plate code. In intellij and eclipse, I can write my fields in a class, then have the IDE generate my getters, setters, constructors, among other things.

I think verbose languages like Java and C# help with readability. They're the sweet middle between Python and C++. Everything is explicitly spelled out, which helps when you're reading code (i.e. you know exactly what a variable contains, a functions return type), but Java/C# don't have pointers, so you get some level of simplicity. Golang is good too. You get even more simplicity, but you still have types and pointers. Even though it has pointers, there's no pointer arithmetic and explicit deallocation of memory, so it's still simple.

[theosdinoysios]

Stef, what do you think about Python Flask? Isn't it capable too? I tried it and it looks cool.

[robertczanik]

What are your thoughts on Quarkus Stefan? It looks really cool, but with Java getting a bit stale I'm a bit hesitant to learn it. Thoughts on Scala?

[danielmwale]

Stef, we need a video on the business side of things? Everything from pricing to receiving payments, taxes and expenses and everything in between. Investing back into the business and so on and so forth. Stop sitting on that wisdom, man. One love.

[iamjimfan]

I can't do Java EE any more once got acquainted with Spring. Being requested to do so is another story.

[axelneumann]

One disadvantage of Java:
JVM: consumes some memory, slow startup
No JVM: compiler takes long, some libraries require extra config (java ecosystem less valuable)

Golang seems like an alternative for enterprises

[emilbabazade]

what about golang? is it worth learning ? according to latest stackoverflow survey, it is third most wanted language currently. Do you think its worth learning in terms of finding job?

[coderlady_]

Thank you for answering my question, uncle stefan 🤗