Krystal And Saagar REACT: ICJ 'Plausible Genocide' Israel Ruling

Krystal and Saagar discuss the ICJ ruling plausible genocide against Israel.

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[j_r_junior]

Kirby is a soulless ghoul with blood on his hands

[liannettmendez]

Other thing about ICJ ruling is that draws attention to prior 75 years of Israel violating human rights and UN resolutions blatantly.

[GlutenEruption]

Listening to Kirby never fails to make my skin crawl and leaves me feeling like I need a long, hot shower.

[petersz]

My main takeaway from the last three days is that I now fully understand how the holocaust happened and how its perpetrators slept with a clear conscience in the full knowledge of what they were doing.

[infinitelybland]

He stammers so much before answering.
Even his own brain is fighting against the lies he tells.

[iouel]

May God Judge Blinken for being a liar.

[shivan]

Thank you for stating what the actual ICJ ruling said (that it was 'plausible' that Israel has committed acts of genocide in Gaza) - you and NPR are one of the only ones who got it right.

[troubledocean]

BTW, the ICJ ruled back in 2004 (? I think?) that Israel does NOT have a right to defend itself when it comes to the Palestinians. Israel is OCCUPYING Palestine, and it is conceptually incoherent that an occupier defend itself against the occupied, because for one thing occupation is by definition an act of aggression.

I believe this is why the Israeli govt immediately started stating and repeating that Israel has a right to defend itself. They counted on most everyone being unaware of that previous ruling, and so they jumped onto the opportunity to infect everyone’s discussions and minds with that piece of propaganda.

And they succeeded for the most part in the fact that almost no one questions it, and actually people gladly push it further by saying outright that no one is questioning Israel’s right to defend itself, and it’s unquestionable that Israel has that right. Well, no, actually they don’t, and ICJ made that clear two decades ago.

[stardust]

Israel is actually on trial. It must, in one month, report back to the ICJ as to whether they have obeyed the orders of the ICJ, i.e. to stop killing Palestinians, to stop harming them, stop destroying infrastructure, etc. And if, as is likely, they have not obeyed those ICJ orders, it falls to the UN Security Council to enforce the ICJ orders. Will the US dare to use its veto yet again???

[areiorum]

Heartbreaking to witness how Israelis are behaving like Germans of the 1930's with U.S. support.

[DoubtfireClub]

I think we're all pretty aware by now how much the institutions care less how we think or feel. It's all about money and power for them.

[NadiaFortune]

I AM south african and you Kirby are below contempt....how do you sleep at night...do you hear the screams under the rubble? i hope you do!!!!

[Not-a-GSD]

Hopefully John Kirby is named as a person that has assisted Genocide. Kirby is the United States version of Baghdad Bob.

[safiakhan]

His stammering says a lot...justice for Palestine 🇵🇸

[KadalTerbang]

Bless your heart Krystal and Saagar for standing up against genocidal adolf netanyahu and his IDF.

[Sam_on_YouTube]

"In the Court’s view, the facts and circumstances mentioned above are sufficient to [plausibly] conclude... the right of the Palestinians in Gaza to be protected from
acts of genocide and related prohibited acts identified in Article III, and... to seek Israel’s compliance with the [it's] obligations under the Convention."
ICJ Ruling, paragraph 54.

EDIT: my original edited quote took out the word "plausible" because it occurred in an otherwise irrelevant clause. But I reinserted it into a different clause in a way that I believe conveys the same point.

[antoniolewis]

It's important that courts DON'T have an enforcement mechanism. That's a big part of the idea of separation of powers, and it also clarifies their roles as the "moral voice of the law" as opposed to "arm of state enforcement".

[maksheadroom]

Thank you for reinforcing the realistic message which came out of the ICJ without any spin on it, remaining objective which is aligned to the humanitarian instincts.

[Vort_tm]

*This ruling is the equivalent of a victim of domestic abuse being granted a restraining order before the actual indictment/trial.*
In this analogy, the ICJ granted the "restraining order" against Israel because the allegations that the abuser was a legitimate threat to the victims were credible.
So, when we say that the provisional ruling found that there was a plausible threat that genocide was occurring; the ICJ panel of judges found that the probability... the risk to civilians that Israel was committing an actual genocide was high enough that they granted an injunction to stop Israel from committing further acts that might even possibly be construed as genocidal.
This is a huge deal and it's thoroughly revolting and reveals the rot in our government that they are gaslighting and obfuscating to the public.

[santichatterjee]

Brilliant analysis🎉loved it to the end❤