Grounding & Bonding Issues

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To be crystal clear the reason we do not bond the groundied conductor ( neutral) and the grounding conductor ( Ground ) is if both the main panel and sub panels are bonded. You created a ground loop. This makes it possible that the grounding conductor could have current flowing on it while not tripping the breaker. Thus the possibility of someone touching a device that is grounded and getting shocked ( hurt) or electrocuted(killed) or a fire to start.
An electrician's job is to protect both Life and property from electricity.

lidlett
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To be clear, this is a SUB PANEL which should not have the neutral and ground bonded together. Only the MAIN PANEL should be bonded.

bubbajones
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I am also concerned about the ground wire being black instead of green. Should have been re identified

kegwf
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The breaker is on the line so what happens in the ground is not relevant. Once the ground and neutral are separated at the main panel they are never combined. There is no sub-panel exception to this. It is included in the never. There is absolutely no need to connect them.

okaro
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What’s worse is the reach for that damn ground bar, no room to add anything

marvin
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Love your videos. They are highly educational.

However, as an apprentice, while viewing on mobile, they’re a little fast at times and it’s hard to see what exactly you’re pointing at. I suggest taking a little more time, slow the pace, edit by zooming in or digitally adding an arrow on a paused video.

icevariable
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I'm putting in 125 amp sub panel, I removed the bonding screw and sub panel is 1 foot away from main panel. Do I need a ground bar or is running a ground conductor to main panel okay?

kentr.
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Glad to see somebody's using the quality panel. QO has done well for me over the year and CH Eaton

ryanyork
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Separate structures are required to have ground rods for grounding per NEC

TheTubejunky
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Where does that ground wire come from .?

waltersteele
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So there's, conductor coming in, from a ground rod, and connected directly to the neutral bus instead of the grounding bus-bar? Yes, clear Code violation.
But also, it appears there's also no grounding conductor coming in with the three feeders, from the other panel (which is where the grounding should originate, since this is a sub-panel). So that's a Code violation as well.
Basically, that panel has NO grounding at all...?

Calicostring
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Look closely. I don't even see an EGC run with the feeders. "The ground" is a grounding electrode conductor and belong in the main disconnect, not at this MLO panel.

electricianron_New_Jersey
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to run that wire to the proper position then run it to neutral is crazy work.

chodge
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For context historically this would have been OK. Changes in the code’s application and approach to GECs and connections to the neutral have changed regarding separate structures. Granted this was sometime ago. when, this was not just acceptable, but required… in some cases

NoName-OG
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Where your grounding bar jumper as a can shall not be used as the jumper itself? 🤔

stevetheiven
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Really needed this video today thanks !

shawnepps
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What's wrong with just using the green screw? That's supposed to be there, allowing it to be grounded and neutral.

craig
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Who is the person whom ran this ground wire terminated to neutral? That can't be on the electrical blue print.? Does it call for ground fault breaker ? That still is clearly lined out on a print.I don't get where or what the had in mind.?

franktraverso
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What happens is you can induce current into your unsheilded ground from the mitral wire. Could lead to a shocking experience.

redbovine
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When you send the 1st year to do a panel.

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