RetroTutorial: Installing Windows 98 Second Edition on an HP T5300 Thin Client!

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Chapters
00:00 Introduction
03:26 Preconditions
04:33 Partition and Format
07:52 Creating Installer Thumbdrive
13:06 Installing Windows 98
21:57 Wrapping It Up

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I'm grateful to you, Phil and RetroSuperhighway for videos about thin clients. For a long time I wanted to run MS-DOS, Windows 98 and Windows XP on real hardware, but didn't have space (or money) for several vintage PCs. Also, while many people are nostalgic about hard disk and floppy noise, I always hated them. I spent the 90s dreaming about small and completely silent PC, and now I have exactly that! 🙂
IMHO t5710 is the high point of Win9x computing, and Wyse Z90D7 is the same thing for early XP era. But I would never got the idea to use these thin clients on my own. Thanks!

morsecypher
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My Uncles' shop EPoS system is based on DOS, and when his 30 year old Gateway PC finally gave up after many bandaids over the years, I cloned the HDD and used an old HP thin client to replace it. Instead of $11, 000 plus a service agreement for a new system, I got his old one working better than new for the princely sum of $22.

clive
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I've gotta get myself one of these Thin Clients. There's no end to the possibilities.

TheNostalgiaMall
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Have just done this with an HP T5000 sub assembly T5300 and its running 98se like a dream. I used a 2 gig CF card and also cheated by formatting it and copying setup files with another machine. The only problem was a lovely irq conflict but after changing the ide controller to single channel that did the trick. Once again thanks for the inspiration and instructions. :-)

degsie
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Thanks for this awesome tutorial! I was able to get Win 98 SE working on my HP Compaq T5000 using it. You earned a sub. I had to use the wayback machine on a few occasions though as some of the links in the guide don't seem to work anymore.

sleekflash
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Keep the content coming, Chris! Your videos are fun, different, and informative. By the way, glad to hear you like Dave Plummer too. I've found many of his videos to be fun and informative as well.

OzzFan
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Chris! My main man. Came to show some love!

AmigaofRochester
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The video was extremely helpful Chris, thanks very much

brauchitsch
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These little thin clients make inexpensive DOS boxes and are fun to mess around with. I've got the T5700.

owenrichards
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Excellent video, github notes put it ahead of the game for me. Shame I can only click the thumbs up once :-D

degsie
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Myself, do have a HP T5710 i bought off of eBay from someone in germany who has sold over 600 of them so far, for about $80AUD all up a couple of years ago now. Put in a Micro SD card adaptor, and a 64GB Micro SD card for the storage. Partitioned, formatted & made it bootable through VMWare, then copied the installation files (Windows 98 Second Edition being on it), drivers & other things (Programs, games & whatnot) onto the card. Put it back into the T5710 & installed it all like that, and works all good. Do have a little adaptor to make the one PS/2 port into two, so i can have both a PS/2 mouse & keyboard with it. Also have an external CD/DVD drive for if i need that, but i've made ISO's of whichever discs i'd use & have Daemon Tools for those purposes when need be. Also more recently upgraded the RAM to 1GB, and it does work fine, though in some cases 9X can have issues with that much. And with it's 16MB graphics chip, makes for a nice little 98 machine will say, and i like others first heard of it through Phil's Computer Lab, which is what made me want to get one. So i have the way i do for installing 98 onto it, but still a good video to watch as is the rest of the things you do too chris.

huleeyaxerssius
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Hi chris - thin clients the WW2 Jeep of PC's

Nice work as usuall, as much as i like real hardware ( my oldest is a Pentium 100 with voodoo 2 - emulation is good and close to the real thing )

I describe to people thin clients as a modern but cheap alternative to retro pc's and even when new the technology was a few generations old to help with the low cost - personally i have 2 1 - connects to work ( used for the designated tasks of all things ) - the other has dos 6.22 and 1G DOM with win 98 ( no sound unfortunately ) but it can boot linux of USB stick for modern browsing and dosbox

Parky towers does have great information and all of his experiments well laid out.
Phil from Phil's computers does a excellent job on his retro and modern classics and shares all his information on his youtube and web page and is a excellent contributor to Vogons

For people who have the wrong type of thin client that is to old or does not support sound cards - i suggest Linux Puppy 4 or 5 ( it is old from 2010 ) but it works and you can get the puppy dos box which runs dos - understandably it is emulation but works on 90=95% of what you want to run anyway - you can run puppy with as low as 512k memory and a cheap 1G thumb drive is sufficient - i think the distro is small @ 200 meg ISO and come in 32bit with PAE support - note some IDE DOM ( Disk On Module ) are small eg 100meg as they normally just are large enough for a thin client OS, larger size DOM are available but be carefull some DOM will cost as much as the entire thin client so 4 Gig USB stick is excellent for 32bit machines

Regards
George

georgemaragos
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Linus Torvalds of Linux fame was a Transmeta, makers of the CPU, employee for a few years.

tss
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A nice bit of fun, without the retro - "tax".

ted-b
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hi, i have some questitions. first, where do you get the drivers for windows 95 as i have seen you have it preninstalled. my second questition is does windows 98 drivers work on 95 or nt 4.0? thanks in advance!

fusion
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Just bought a Compaq/HP t5700 off eBay. I've followed the instructions and I'm at the step where you install the Windows 98 USB driver. But I screwed up...I'm installing Windows 98, not the SE edition, but the driver downloaded from Phil's computer lab is the 98SE version and not (I think) the nusb33e.exe (Win98) version I need? How do I get the correct driver onto the C: drive? Create another boot disk for transferring files?

dbbyres
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Each to their own, but for me, Win 98 AND a thin client? That's like banging your hand with TWO hammers!!!! :-)

flite
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Will these processes work for the t5000?

salihalveren
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Seems a little bit sluggish when booting after installing all the drivers. Is DMA enabled for the DoM? Or is it just slow?

cocusar
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if in dos wat sound can you run for 80, s games?

jediknight