China has Made A Water Based Battery: But Does it Live up to the Hype?

Discover the revolutionary water-based battery that could reshape our world. From extending electric vehicle range to safer, eco-friendly power storage, this breakthrough might be the key to future energy solutions.

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[larzlarz]

So many thing wrong with this video: 1) iron flow batteries that use iron, vanadium and chlorine are already in service. If adding bromine was the panacea that this video makes it out to be, companies making iron flow batteries would have already figured this out. Bromine, chlorine and iodine are all halogens. Their research would have included all of them. 2) you said this “new” battery lasts 1, 000 charging cycles. That is less than lithium ion batteries in cars that have advanced battery management, like charge controllers and water cooling. They already last for 1, 500 charging cycles. 3) In the slides you show show this battery is using Cd, cadmium, which is a still a rare metal and it is very toxic, after you went on a rant about how lithium batteries use rare earth metals, while cobalt and manganese are rare, but do not qualify as rare earth metals. 4) China, the largest battery manufacturer, is using lithium iron phosphate batteries in 50% of their cars and 75% of their grid scale storage batteries, and those don’t use any nickel, manganese or cobalt. And they don’t have the fire risk that lithium NMC batteries have. 5) you talked about how using nickel is bad, but in the slides you show, these batteries also use nickel. Normally your videos are good, but this one is a dumpster fire.

[chriswoodend]

Would be great for everyone if this pans out but there are an ENORMOUS amount of potential battery technologies that work in-lab on a small scale that cannot scale up in any practical or cost-effective way. Cautious optimism is the name of the game here.

[blahorgaslisk]

I will believe in this new battery when it has been tested and found working by other sources. And I will belive in the manufacture and usage of these when it had been shown that they are as simple and cheap to manufacture as claimed.

There have been so many innovative battery technologies unleashed in just the last fifty years, and yet only four really made the transition from idea to product, and of these three are lithium based and the last a variation on the NiCad batteries. What is almost as strange is that even back in the 70's something as basic as the charging of NiCad cells were close to black magic. The charge rates and discharge leves were something where scientific studies hadn't made much difference. Batteries were charged and discharged using the same ideas as was used in the 40's. And this was after NASA had released their information on battery maintenance. But as it didn't fit the common ideas it was ignored by almost everybody. This is something that has improved with modern battery chemistry. There has been more data on charging and discharging these batteries and we know more about how the charge cycles degrade them.

I won't believe in any new battery tech that promises to double the energy density unless it's really made into a working product.

[Yay]

3:53 "Nor can [lithium-ion batteries] be recycled" he says, while showing a clip from a lithium-ion battery recycling facility.

[Banks]

This video was mostly talking about how great a new battery would be, and less about the yet to be reproduced study

[parasinthephilippines]

The Sodium Battery is actually now on sale in the UK.

[t.g.]

Watt hours/litre and watt hours/kg are different things and want both to be as high as possible. First is energy/volume and second is energy/mass

[davidjernigan]

Put that water based battery on the shelf next to the 100 mpg carburetors and the electrolytic cells that break down water and feed the hydrogen and oxygen into the engine.

[larzlarz]

Woah, your writers need to do some more research. You were showing “black mass”, which is the recyclable material that comes from recycling lithium ion batteries while you were literally saying that lithium ion batteries can’t be recycled. That is kind of fucked up.

[maccothemillion]

Definitely a fantastic first step, can't wait to see where the tech expands/improves

[dinsdalemontypiranha]

Thank you so much for this video Simon. As you made abundantly clear, this is potentially a huge change for the better in many sectors of technology. Plus, it's just always great to watch one of your videos.

[VanGarrett]

Every couple of months, there is some huge breakthrough in Battery Technology. It's more stable, it charges really fast, it's got a higher energy density, it's cheaper to make. It always has at least two. Even John Goodenough, the inventor of Lithium Ion Batteries, came up with an improved, solid state battery, and we aren't using it. I've grown pessimistic about seeing new batteries enter the market. In EVs maybe, but elsewhere? I think it's going to be a while.

[RandomGreymane]

I’ve heard about so many wonder batteries that didn’t come to market that I could walk on them across the Great Lakes when placed end to end.

I’ll believe it when one shows up in my phone or car.

[benhunter]

Lead acid car batteries are water based. Before you were born we used to be able to pop the tops on a battery Before you were born we used to be able to/need to pop the tops on a battery and add warm water. This was done in mostly northern climates for cranking power. Trucks, tractors and aircraft. Maybe ask them living in Siberia how they got long quite well at -35C in the 50's

[AdventuresonTour]

Whoever does your research made a big Oops here. Lithium Ion batteries are very much recyclable.

[BruceJSkelly]

Great. Now we can get back to putting lithium in 7Up.

[jamesschanke]

As someone who has worked for ten years in the battery recycling industry, thank you for mentioning the recycling problem with Lithium batteries. There is no financially feasible method to recycle them. The only places that do have to be government subsidized. (aka, you pay for it through taxes) This means that nearly all of them are winding up in landfills.

To contrast with lead-acid batteries, lead is 99.9% recycled and is done by private companies because the results pay for the process without government subsidies. Additionally, due to the EPA restrictions added in the 1970's, only the companies that have implemented stringent environmental controls are still in business.

[busboy]

I've been waiting for a water-fueled combustion engine for as long as I've waited for mainstream consumer flying cars. The clock is ticking on those two gems. I will now start the timer on the water-based battery and see if it can beat the time of the other's time to market.

[miked.]

IS IT APRIL FOOLS AGAIN? THIS VIDEO HAS SO MANY MISTAKES I WOULDN'T KNOW WHERE TO BEGIN 😂😅😮

[qadirtimerghazin]

Ok, I will need to read the actual paper, but just a few thoughts. First, iodine/bromine do the work here, not water, just like lithium does in conventional batteries, so saying it is aqueous vs lithium batteries is somewhat confusing. Second, lithium is unique that it is the third lightest element (after hydrogen and helium), and it also generates the highest voltage. Now, bromine and iodine are very heavy elements, so if they managed to get better energy density per weight compared to lithium batteries, it sounds pretty crazy, but who knows, maybe….