Secondary Progressions in Astrology Explained

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An introduction to the timing technique known as secondary progressions in astrology, where we explain the meaning of the secondary progressed chart and show you how to use it to make predictions about your future, with astrologers Kelly Surtees and Chris Brennan.

During the course of the discussion we talk about how to calculate secondary progressions, where one day of the native's life symbolizes one full year.

We also talk about how to interpret a secondary progressed chart, and what sort of things you should pay attention to, such as planetary stations, exact aspects, and the lunation cycle.

Our goal was to provide a solid introduction to secondary progressions for beginners, and an overview of some of the different ways that you can use the technique, and then in future episodes we will go into more detail with certain areas of the technique.

This is episode 144 of The Astrology Podcast:

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00:00:00 Intro
00:02:08 History of secondary progressions
00:05:28 Recommended ephemeris
00:07:26 Transits vs. progressions
00:12:11 Solar arc directions vs. progressions
00:14:36 Progressions definition
00:19:06 Ephemeris demo
00:27:24 How to use progressions with the natal chart
00:35:40 Progressed retrogrades/stations
00:53:15 Progressed lunation phases
01:25:44 Progressed Sun
01:32:10 Aspects by progression
01:41:59 Fixed stars
01:43:34 Progressions on angles
01:57:00 How to work with timing techniques
01:59:06 Books about progressions
02:00:00 Kelly's work on progressions
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As a crusty old astrologer of 48 years practice, it is wonderful to see that astrology is way better off today, in the hands of these young astrologers, than it was when I began. Great job guys!

williammedford
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I got sober and healed a LOT when my progressed Saturn went direct.

Jack.
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I looked at the ephemeris as I was watching the video, and my 60s are gonna be LIT. I can't wait!! :D Thank you Kelly and Chris!

urdsama
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I am having a freaking moment. When Kelly said women tend to have their babies during a balsamic moon period I was like ooh! Something I can actually reference for myself and holy shit wouldn't you know it, I got married and pregnant with my first baby in a balsamic moon period in Libra in the 5th house.

My natal Mars is in the 5th house, and I've read that that sometimes correlates with the first child being a boy (accurate again) and/or with heavy Aries traits. Also accurate. His natal moon, Uranus, and MC are all in Aries in the 10th house. My progressed new moon happened in Feb 2015 in 6th house Scorpio. I had my second boy a few months later in June 2015, and my third and final boy in October 2016, also 6th house Scorpio, AND he's a Scorpio sun.

We decided we were done with the baby phase right around when my moon was moving into Sagittarius, and "freedom" from being stuck in the house and getting out and doing new things became the focus. I even remember having multiple discussions during that time about moving into the next "phase" of life, where the kids are growing up and becoming more independent. All before I paid any real attention to astrology beyond my sun sign. Unbelievable.

HawkeScream
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Good stationing example... I was born with retrograde mars. The week it’s progressed position stationed direct, I abruptly decided to quit college and within 6 months I had enlisted in the Navy and was sitting in boot camp. That’s a very literal manifestation of mars.

katelynsouza
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Kelly is KICKASS !!! I have learned More about myself with the area's of Astrology that are her expertise in the last 4 months than all 6 years I have been studying Astrology.

mandyboone
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I'm just writing in to say that I spent all of yesterday watching these videos and I've ordered your book and can't wait for it to arrive. I've been in this phase with modern astrology where I feel like there must be something more and I think I've stumbled on your work just in time. There's so much astrology content on the internet but so little with substance, that can actually teach you something new. Thanks so much for your dedication and please keep these great videos coming! - Judy Balan

judybalan
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I think the most riveting part of this interview is where we learned how Chris got sunburned when his progressed Mars transited his natal Sun. I think its universal implications are something everyone will find very valuable in forming a more profound understanding of astrology.

mickipellerano
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Finally, a video that helped me understand the full concept of Transits, solar arc & so much more! Thank you so much for taking the time to teach us, I dearly appreciate it

DancingWithBELLA
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I had 6 planets retrograde at birth. The first astrologer, later my mentor, who seriously looked at my chart told me that was rare. Five have turned Direct.

janmann
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I just turned 22 and have been starting a lot of new projects and a new career as a realtor which I studied for and started when I was 21 but am now tying up the loose ends before I can actually work as a licensed agent. Turns out I'm almost exactly in the new moon phase of my progressions. I do have Pluto directly conjunct my ascendant and Jupiter directly conjunct my IC. I'm definitely in a huge transformative period. I am now sober and have been deeply examining my relations with my family and limiting beliefs I've adopted over the course of my childhood, but deeply dedicated to therapy, healing, and breaking karmic cycles to cultivate what I truly want. 

Also I want to express how grateful I am for these videos and the priceless amount of knowledge I have learned from it! Astrology is really one of the greatest tools.

Tesse
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Wow so you guys were talking about Progressed New Moon and the start of a new phase of your life so I went and looked back at my progressed chart for 2016 when I studied abroad in Russia, which would eventually lead me to live there, which would set a whole bunch of other things in motion in my life and I that year I had a progressed new moon. Astrology is crazy, my mind is blown!!!!

rachelessel
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I took Kelly’s class on Moon phases and fixed stars✨ it was wonderful ✨

Jack.
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This video is my first approach to progressions and it blew my mind. I realized that the eclipse that took place on the 21th of June 2020 was in the same sign/ whole house than a solar eclipse which took place 29 days after my birth, coinciding the year of my exact Saturn return and so on. No wonder why this year was so intense (plus the current transits, of course…! Astrology truly is mind blowing, once again). Thank you so much for your videos, it's a pleasure to learn astrology alongside with you folks. I will surely dive deaper within progressions in the future :)

madeleyne
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Dear Chris and Kelly! I am soooo grateful for this!! Dear Chris, I am extra extra extra grateful for your skill for feeling into a student's perspective and knowing, "hey, maybe we should show this as well as they might not understand it". I am grateful for this as they were exactly the times when I went "please dont go further, I have not yet understood this part!" :) I am not an astrology student but I have spent years studying it, so I am especially grateful that this is accessible to us <3 hearts and hugs from Budapest, Hungary

milomazli
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Fascinating how this all works out! In my 20th year, my progressed sun moved into 4H Virgo and that time of my life was when my entire inner world changed. I went from a glowing, happy-go-lucky kinda of child, into a highly critical and unassuming young adult. I spent the next several years rethinking my foundational values.

ashtonoakstand
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Thank you for this episode! I hadn’t understood secondary progressions prior to watching this and omg—my life maps nearly perfectly and oh-so literally. Feels like magic ✨⚡️💫🔮

retracplayz
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Thank you Kelly and Chris! I stayed up until 2am last night learning this and working with my own chart. You two are the best for being so helpful with all your knowledge !

scenicrouteastrology
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Using the ephemeris to count out a little test using the age I had become a Mom: chart ruler in Cancer with Mercury in retro. My son was born during retrograde Mercury, too! So cool! Thank you for another fantastic lesson! I have to say - all the timing technique episodes are invaluable! Thank you so much! 🙏🏼

ashleigh
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Wow I've been studying astrology for a few years, but could never grasp this concept. Thank you guys so much for this and for all of your content, much appreciated

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