EVERYTHING About Learning to Code is F**KED!

My opinion on the current state of "Learning to code" and becoming a programmer.

[dontdoit]

SWE here. (8 yrs exp + cs degree). There’s still a strong need for good experienced, senior level people in all tech jobs. Eventually, people age out. Few developers work more than 10 years before moving into management or leaving the field. I would start learning right now because all of these systems we have built aren’t going to suddenly go away. I’m optimistic because I work in consulting and have seen dozens of large systems with huge teams on them. If these systems failed, the companies would grind to a halt. To replace devs with AI requires tremendous expense and tremendous trust in the AI. I don’t see either happening anytime soon. There are banks currently running 40 year old legacy cobol code with teams of hundreds when their system could have been redesigned at any point. I just don’t see AI adoption happening to replace devs. Not until a cheap, easily integratabtle, and 100% secure AI option exists. As long as it takes a Microsoft or Google to train and host the AI, you’ll see hesitation from companies not willing to dump their sensitive data into the system to be churned and trained on. Anyway, learn javascript lol

[Maikeru]

Your honesty is always welcomed and appreciated my man. Thank you for staying true. There are others I used to follow thst you can see they are just regurgitating the same crap they've been trying to sell every year with no substance. Thank you for being genuine.

[PatrikRasch]

2.5 years in on The Odin Project now. I've done it all very thoroughly, built additional projects on the side, and worked with a couple of dev friends on another project. Job search has just begun. This is what I love to do, and long-term I want to build software for others that I always wish I had.
Unfortunate about the timing, but I believe that if I just keep hammering at this, I'll eventually have so much knowledge that I'll undoubtedly find something that I can build upon further.

[AllanAffect]

As a self-taught programmer, knowing where the job market is going is scary, but I am happy that someone is laying it out like it is. Thank you, Dorian, for being true to yourself.

[zelig]

I was doing quite well. Mastered html and JS, not a great eye for design so CSS wasn't fun, then I moved to react, struggled as it was class based when I first started, but got easier when they made the functional switch. Started working on full stack, all was working quite well. I still wasn't able to get a job, but I thought I was on the right path. Then I tried adding typescript. Completely threw me. I just couldn't get my head around it. Then the layoffs started. I think there are more people teaching people how to code and doing such a wonderful job of making it seem easy than there are actual people working in the industry. I get it, why do if you can teach, but it's very disingenuous. I'm sure a lot of these youtube people couldn't get a job themselves so decided to teach others, it's a bit of a pyramid scheme at time.

[gtsin]

This is the most demotivating yet realistic video about coding that I've seen in 3 years. More videos like this are needed. Many people waste time trying to code just because everyone makes it sound so great, despite high failure rates.

[bdjnk]

I'm a senior software engineer. I was fired in a lay off a week ago. I have applied for over 50 jobs since then. So far two have moved me to the first interview, six have rejected my candidacy, and 40 some odd have not responded yet. It is rough out there.

[DevlogBill]

Excellent video Dorian! Well, the best thing is to continue to learn how to code. Continue to send applications but with zero expectations. The value is you can make your own products and those products you make for yourself eventually you can make for others by freelancing. Thanks for sharing!

[DesignedByTaz]

I love the realness in this. I’ve been a designer for almost 2 decades and I’m struggling to find work right now despite an experienced portfolio. This is so much more terrifying than 2008 was for me personally.

[Alexdeor]

I'm currently in a financially tough spot, and for the last couple of years, I've been trying to get a better job. My job company is currently paying for training programs, and it's between web-dev boot-camp and another program that is more in line with what I'm currently working as. After spending this year looking for a web-dev job, the requirements have been increasing, and the job market has become too competitive. The honesty of the video helped me to reflect and reinforce my decision. Truly, thank you.

Hey Dorian. Your no bs approach to all this is refreshing and seems genuine. Probably the selling point for me to sub and follow your content. As other have said, hope you manage to stay true so you can build a loyal following and keep providing awesome value

[SahedX]

thanks for keeping it real man. appreciate it. i am still trying my best not to loose hope and just keep pushing, and maybe with a little luck... things will work out

[Great_YY]

Thank you for your honesty mahn . I figured this truth for a while now about reality of coding and people need to realize that times have changed. People need to start self navigating and not taking advices from some YouTubers that only confuse them more . And the YouTubers at the end of the day only want what's beneficial to them ..

[sebastianpayancristancho]

One the the realest point of view out there. Many of us have started learning data analyst and cybersecurity too. That's true is easier to learn but it is still uncertain how much will people be able to make remotely. Thanks for that review

[ajz]

Thank you for keeping it real man. I used to look up to you a lot as a programmer but now I look up to you as a person. You’re an inspiration whether you realize it or not. I see a lot of my self in you. I hope someday I get my life together and a career figured out. Thanks for all your content and advice it really helps.

[TheSoulCrisis]

I love your message and thanks for being real! It's not easy breaking into it but things are so rough right now, I feel for new grads!

[rismah]

Just wanna say thanks for keeping it real. Really appreciate it. I stumbled onto your channel when I was first starting out and it was inspiring. It's really a shame what's ultimately become of the industry :( used to be people can learn on the job and now everywhere expects coders to be engineers from the get go.

[the_dude_playing_the_guy]

You are the most realistic person on the tubes. Thank you man!! I have done literally every single path to learn, and honestly I almost gave up so many times due to the tech stack, peoples opinions, biased information and crap. I wish I would have gone back, followed what I was most interested in, reading the documentation on said subjects and just keep practicing and recreating projects that excite me. I have even done college for computer science. I have learned more and done more with free open source platforms than I did with school...

[blackshockable]

30 dollars worth of used coding books can teach you waaay better than most luxurious $10k plus coding bootcamps

[mikolots]

The moment I finally had my webdev portfolio job ready was also during the moment the coding job market crashed. Very bad timing and a dream killer. I don't know what to do. Back to doing Uber I suppose.