Who Is Acheron And Can We Trust Her? | Honkai Star Rail Lore

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Honkai star rail 2.0 has introduced a a large cast of characters as part of its main story and the biggest difference from past stories is you dont really know who you can trust. The MC meets Acheron pretty early into the main trailblazer quest story and as things progress, Acheron seems less and less trustworthy. In fact there are things about her that are outright suspicious one of which is that she is an emanator. So in this video we are going to explore the question of who is acheron and more importantly can we really trust her?

Some part of this video comes from the actual lore while others may be speculation on my part as we currently do not know the full story. As such take it with a grain of salt as the point of this video is just a deeper dive into Honkai Star Rail lore.

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i can't help but trust acheron for some reason, and i can't explain why but i don't feel like she's sus at all

_Kisaragi
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Penacony truly is one huge game of among us where everyone (except the astral express) is probably an imposter

electroneurons
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Something to note about our conversations with Acheron is that the answer we choose when she speaks in red text can change how she remembers things during our next meeting.
Choose the correct options during your dream encounter and she will tell you that she knows its your room and found it sus when she saw Aventurine entering (she still got lost tho).
Give the correct options after Aventurine leaves and she will later tell you inside memory zone that she got send there by Sparkle/Hanabi without warning or explanation.
However, it seems she is honest with us in either outcome. The red text kinda tells us if *Acheron is confused* or *Acheron will remember that* for the next encounter with her.

dersylvio
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A Raiden Mei expy on the path of finality sounds too perfect to be a coincidence.

reevvie
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The only reason I don't believe Acheron in an antagonist and is actually one of the more trustworthy characters in Penacony so far is how genuine she is when she got lost like Zoro, and that very short funeral she held in memory of Firefly. While it is true she is hiding something, especially with showing off her true powers that we do get a hint of in the White Night MV, I really can't call her a villain. The opening scene where she asks the Trailblazer questions felt like a vibe check to see if they are ready to experience the Penacony story, of which we see Acheron shed a tear hinting that she might knowledge of the possible heartaches they might experience.

Edit: Also being an Emanator doesn't automatically mean evil. It just means she is very powerful. Aventurine might have made it seem like they're evil because of our experience with Phantylia. He did study the Trailblazer and as a merchant it's a handful skill to be able to charm their customers, to be closer to us and make use of the Astral Express. Black Swan did warn us to scrutinize everything he says.

navynarupan
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I can't really trust Aventurine when he says "Acheron disposed of Duke Inferno to steal his invitation". Remember the beginning of Penacony? How staff wouldn't let the Trailblazer in with Dan Heng's invitation?

Feels like that whole sequence was to hammer home that 'Invitations are not transferable'. So either Aventurine (and Black Swan) is trying to deceive us, or someone leaked false information to him.

rinoakirova
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My suspicion is that the Acheron we originally met in the dream at the beginning was actually Black Swan.

Both of them respond the same way when being told that they can't do something, by simply replying, "Why not?". Black Swan does it to Sparkle, and Acheron does it in the dream. Black Swan has the ability to temporarily remove people's memories, which is what is happening to Acheron. She also mentions having the ability to predict the future based on memories.

ree
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One observation I have that no one seems to be talking about is the symbol on Acheron's sword (and shoulder pad). It looks so much like the stigma of death used in both honkai 3rd and honkai gakuen. Aventurine mentioned Acheron as an emanator who brings death and finality. I don't know if there is an Aeon of Death so I'm not really sure what to make of this. Just throwing it out there.

はまやらわあかさたな-ck
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What I found interesting about the last scene was, that Sam didn't even acknowledge us - the Trailblazer. If I remember correctly, he said something along the lines: "A Galaxy Ranger and a Memo Keeper.", but he just ignored us completely (rude!!!). Also, he - Sam - addressed Acheron as "Galaxy Ranger", so maybe the two know each other?

緑-xz
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Interesting thing to point out is the first we met Archeron in the dream, there's room with images of characters in Penacony story which could be teasing Main Story or Character Story because the dialogue for BS and Sparkle is the SAME in their Character Quest and the order they placed (in MC pov) seems off but make sense for Archeron if she actually is Emanator of Finality:
Sam&SW Sunday&Robin Aventurine&Ratio Sparkle&BS

qiqimane
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5:54
Hi3 points to the fact that every Mei follows or has ties to finality in some way, with raiden Mei being a herrscher, and ei being a aeon. Because of this, I think Acheron is a emenator of finality, most likely embodying thunder or origin.

fishtonk
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"Asheron"? She doesn't say that in the trailer...

Also, I think she is Nihility, since don't Self-Annihilators have similar memory issues? And her drip marketing teases a connection to the new relic set which seems to deal with IX.

marchimarch
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The theme of panacony is to unravel the truth, truth among lies, truth among dream. Whose word you can trust among all cast in panacony.

And about duke inferno invitation, how can Acheron use somebody else invitation form different group if we the trailblazer have problem simply because we are not Dan Heng.

tomitomhy
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I think youre on to something with the finality and the memory thing. If we assume elio is finality the red text and the "script" from elio really plays into the ideals of terminus, i dont tbink this makes her evil but she could get in our way at some point

Roihclem
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I suspect Acheron isn't affiliated with any of the paths Aventurine named (though of those, Finality has the greatest probability IMHO). Rather, I think she is an emenator of IX/Nihility. If that is so, I think her psyche may have been fragmented by IX's gaze and her "memory loss" is more a function of not having conscious access to portions of her mind. This, in turn, would protect her from Memokeepers like Black Swan, who would possibly have to cross a psychic "effect horizon" to access those memories. All speculation on my part, but that's where I am at the moment.

chaddickhaut
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Long answer:YES YES YES YES YES TRUST HER
Short answer: yes
she is the realest mf and only comrade that we can rely on in the story and its hinted over and over again its so obvious that she is doing a teacher role to us in tough times and guiding us as a frnd(she also gets reminded of a frnd in past whenever she look at us)
ALSO SHE NEVER ONCE LIED TO US EVEN THO SHE IS THREATENING IN OUTSIDE. Aventurine, black swan all only help us for their benefit and ipc lapdogs r the scum of the universe they always gamble ppl lives and trust for their gains.

Kishisuke
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From a raiden shogun being the archon of eternity to Acheron an emanator to finality would be such a cool comparison

andreesprz
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Treat death as your friend as she is the reliable person you know hou will meet

wanderer
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I have a bit of a different take. Aventurine says that Duke Inferno didn't make it to Penacony and that he was killed en route, following it up with the statement that a mysterious individual claiming to be a galaxy ranger arrives on Penacony carrying a music box (an invitation). I think he might genuinely be telling the truth, as Black Swan suggests, but that doesn't mean we should take his words at face value given how crafty he is. He merely mentions these two facts in succession and implies a causal link between them, but we have no reason to accept this implication.

While it's true that Duke Inferno didn't make it (which Black Swan confirms too, and we see this in her myriad celestia trailer), Acheron may not be the one to have done it. As another commenter has pointed out, the opening scene hammers home the point that invitations can't simply be transferred. However, we see Acheron roaming the hotel and able to access the VIP section where our rooms are. This seems to suggest she's genuinely an invited guest.

Who then, might be the one(s) to have attacked Duke Inferno? Well, there are at least two known unwanted "guests" on Penacony - the Stellaron Hunters, and Firefly. If they were invited to Penacony by the watchmaker, they would have their own rooms and not be pursued by the Family, and yet, both parties appear to be stowaways. How did they come to know about the invitation if they were not invited themselves? It's certainly possible that one or the other attacked Duke Inferno and found out about this, but being unable to use the invitation, had to resort to sneaking into the dreamscape in order to participate.

Aventurine may or may not be aware of this, but perhaps he merely came into possession of the knowledge and decided the best way to convince (mislead) the trailblazer is to present it in such a way that it implies Acheron is a villain, when in reality, the two facts may be completely unrelated.

archeri
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It is interesting to think that Acheron might be a double emanator as there is both evidence to suggest Finality but also Nihility. Then again as a concept both of these Paths could be considered as overlapping, and we also do not know much about either of them. Though for the Device IX faction, it does have a quote from a Galaxy Ranger.... hm. Either way, Ill pull the shit out of her and probably her LC. Im running out of LCs for Nihility so I might need to lol

netherfire