Hillary's Emails v. Trump's Boxes ft. Opening Arguments

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As someone who works in software development and has previously worked under government contracts with a security clearance, the lack of security from these people in the highest positions is both migraine inducing and... not one damn bit surprising.

I'm just going to go into a corner and cry now.

bretsheeley
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I'd almost forgotten he'd requested another nation do espionage on his political opponent

Justinume
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If literally anyone other than Trump did even a fraction of what he's accused of they'd be in jail by now.

Maswartz
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It still cracks me up that you had a president that needed to be told
that injecting bleach was a bad idea

zarahandrahilde
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This is why govt officials should be required to take the same training as the rest of us. I'm not even that connected to govt but im required to take security training, ethics training (bribes bad) and cyber training that they BOTH violated.

nebulan
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It's a very weird defense for Trump that if Clinton's email handling was criminal, then his own handling of classified information was not. It's an argument that falls apart for grade-schoolers.

Bigandrewm
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Phrase: "That's above my pay grade"
Meaning: "They don't pay me enough to lie"

thejudgmentalcat
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Lock every politician up when they break a law. Stop treating them different than regular citizens.

theFLCLguy
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My God, every Trump comment about Russia ages 10 times worse every day.

ronaldeliascorderocalles
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I interned in state department over seas, and both my parents worked in the government with sensitive information. The differences between the two cases, is like jaywalking, vs armed robbery, with himself perpetrating the heist. The security and protocol around the stuff that was taken is insanely high, and how the documents were taken gives people who have worked under 3 administrations, panic attacks. Not to say it was complex, but it was clear theft, with intent. If he were anyone else, he and everyone associated with it, would probably end up dissapearing quietly.

fleurpouvior
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Imagine playing in a dumpster and you find a bunch of CLASSIFIED air force secrets.

plainText
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I'm only ten minutes into the video, and it seems to me like the entire congress and their aids needs to take a course on information security --- regularly.

pantitapalittapongarnpim
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I love how he claims that the documents are secure. Sir, you don't have a security clearance anymore, nor do you have the Need to Know. I don't care if you have them locked in a safe, which is locked in a safe, which is locked in a safe, which is locked in a safe, which is locked behind a bank vault door, at the bottom of the Marianas Trench...if you have any way of accessing them, they aren't secured.

yobogoya
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Just to keep the numbers in perspective. I'm a TSgt in the USAF and have over 10, 000 emails in my account. At least half of those are things that could be considered "not my mf'ing problem" but I get them anyway. So 30, 000 emails for the secretary of state doesn't really seem like a lot.

matthewnardin
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I'm tired of hearing about her emails. Trump had four years to prosecute her regarding her emails and chose not to.

TheWinerdar
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Not to mention that Hillary sat for 12 hours answering questions to the committee and never once took the 5th

lady_bexy
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Right out of school I joined DoD, and was part of review teams that went around to gov't contractors, grading them on how well they followed their documented procedures (including safeguarding classified material). I learned to be PARANOID about treating stuff with any markings from Confidential, to Secret, Top Secret and the differences between For Official Use Only (FOUO), No Foreign, Special Access Required (SAR), Special Compartmentalized Info (SCI), etc. While a lot to keep track of, it was simple to practice: whether you were Authorized, and did you Need To Know. As a private citizen, Trump and his cronies, didn't meet either criterion.

RydarkVoyager
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The big takeaway is that holding political office should require taking a class on cyber security

mollywantshugs
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As they saying goes, it's not the crime, but the cover up. Trump was given so much opportunity to cooperate, they wouldn't be considering prosecution if he had.

cbpd
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Parents, please don't let your kids play in dumpsters!!! There may be classified information in there... or needles!!!

DannyGoLively