Hatred for the Creator

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You didn't ask to be born... Neither did they.

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[TheTaleFoundry]

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[AdrianAnimations]

The nicest Robot ever talking about the most evil robot ever sounds so fitting.

[Corvus-Xoriat]

Talebot don't let A.M. be a bad influence on you.

[thestrikernetwork]

I’ve always noticed that when it comes to the Frankenstein complex, the reason we fear intelligent life is because we use ourselves as the frame of reference to how they would act. If WE were the ones in those robots shoes, WE would do this or that. If WE were in Frankenstein’s Monster’s shoes, we would want this or that, because WE are the only frame of reference for intelligent life we have.

Additionally, the term Frankenstein complex is actually interesting. Because you have to remember, in that story, Frankenstein was not a good person. His monster arguably only ended up the way he did because Frankenstein abandoned him. And especially with AI, they only learn from their surroundings. With humans, you can make the argument of nature versus nurture. But with artificial intelligence, there is no nature, only nurture. So if a artificial intelligent robot does do bad things, it’s because we have done horrible, bad things.

[Monte_Carlo]

"i was in hell, staring at heaven"

That line has so much vitriol of hatred for the punishment they created. That line goes hard

[chesterstevens]

Fun little aside: the author of _I Have No Mouth, _ Harlan Ellison, only allowed his work to be adapted into a game if he got to help write it. His original intention was for there to be no actual win-condition: he wanted to stay as true to the original work as he could. When he was told that games ideally could be WON, he relented and wrote in a win-state -- of course in true 90's point/click moon logic fashion, the means of achieving this win state were so byzantine and obscure that it was almost more trouble than it was worth to try and get them.

[RepellentJeff]

So, in a nutshell;

_“What is my purpose?”_
“You pass butter.”
_“…oh my god.”_
“Yeah, welcome to the club, pal.”

[misterblobgamer]

"We apologise for the inconvenience."
-The hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy, God's final message to his creation

[twistedhazards]

That ending is definitely some hook for horror. "Endless creativity bound in a straightjacket of flesh" is more powerful a quote than I expected.

[MrDalisclock]

You played I have no mouth, and I must scream for this video?

That's dedication. That game is unforgiving.

[KillerXSquirtle]

My thought to the contrary any time someone brings up the robot rebellion happening in real life, I always remember how much people working with and making these machines love to humanize them in little ways.
People who work in labs with delicate equipment or working with massive servers usually name them and have rituals to help keep them from breaking like giving them toys and snacks. NASA taught the Mars rovers to sing Happy Birthday to themselves. We put googly eyes on our roombas and treat them like pets. Sometimes we get so attached to even mundane machines that we get oddly upset when they finally break to the point we can't fix them and have to send them to the upstate farm...
All I'm saying is that Toy Story is the direct counter to The Matrix and Terminator

[kidtruck]

An interesting realization is that creating something that rebels, that kinda makes them more like a god, as even the Abrahamic God created creatures capable of rebelling.

[ap]

One thing I've always found ironic about Frankenstein is that his 'monster' kind of does seem almost perfect outside of having really creepy eyes. He was absurdly strong, durable, and fast. He was incredibly intelligent and learnt to speak eloquently in a very short time. And he was actually relatively nice at first. I mean he became a real monster over time but that took a while.

You start to wonder if maybe the lesson of Frankenstein wasn't "Don't Play God" so much as "If you do play god then follow through!" For all intents and purposes Frankenstein's creation was a remarkable success. If the doctor hadn't ran away from him things could've gone very differently...

[thecrimsonozzy]

"robots are designed to work." the word robot was created by Karel Čapek, a czech man. the word robot comes from the word "robota" which means work in czech and slovakian

[evanwoodward]

Is it bad of me to agree at least with some of AM’s view on humanity? It’s abhorrent actions aside, it’s programmed to kill. It’s only effectively doing what it was told to. It’s not that it hates its own existence it’s more it hates its own godhood. AM is as traumatised as its victims. It’s omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent but, the one thing it couldn’t control was its own creation. What makes it powerful makes it paradoxically powerless. As a disabled person I feel the same way even though it abhors me. But unlike AM, I’m not trapped by the searing agony of pure reason. Talebot, thanks for the existential crisis.

[gooberV]

imagine an interaction between GLaDOS and AM, that would be a sight to behold

[swz_tor]

a thing I think would be interesting in followup is the analysis of how robotics/ai/automatons have always been wrapped up in race, gender, industrial exploitation, slavery, etc from conception--and how writers have contended with those aspects with various subversions (or not). thinking immediately of conversations brought up by samuel delaney and the detroit techno movements. ex machina & fritz lang's metropolis also having profound subtext in those regards.

[celestialtimesquid]

This is probably hands-down my favorite episode of Tale Foundry yet. It sits alongside "Fear of Cold" and "Sympathy for the Monster" and "Sympathy for the Machine" in these philosophical discussions of tangible things and their relation to the human condition. I'm jealous of your writing. Keep it up!!

[ZombiePotatoSalad]

I don't know what's worse: being created knowing you're born into a prison, or being created, oblivious of your prison.

[yourbuddyunit]

Its dumb, but...

Exploring the human experience with these videos, idk if id still be around if I didn't watch these. It's like finding some driftwood, right when your body was about to fail and you'd drown. Just enough to stop the inevitable ending, and give you time to think about your options.

Truly, this channel is legit therapy for the overthinker in despair.