N712AM The Previous Johnson Creek C206 Go Around (June 2024)

"Who is training these guys?!"
The same plane/pilot involved in the August fatal go around. This botched go around was captured in June (2024).

Theme: "Weightless" Aram Bedrosian

[craig]

That was a close call. Its amazing that this video exists that basically documents what happened later.

[DrJohn]

Rarely do we get the opportunity to witness someone practicing what became a fatal crash several months later.

[colton]

My neighbor in his 50s got his ppl a few years ago. Got his instrument rating right after. Then started talking about buying a high performance aircraft to fly his wife around to visit the kids. He bought a airplane similar to the 206 but with retractable gear. He used the same instructor all through including the HP checkout. He was proud of his airplane and asked me to go for a flight with him. ( im a high time airline/GA pilot with alot of time in his type of aircraft) I saw a lot of concerning things and one was a failure to operate the aircraft at the POH recommended speeds. He made a landing similar to the video crow hopping along. He flew at least 20kts over the POH speeds. When I asked him why he told me his instructor told him to fly faster because it was safer. After we got back to the hangar I took the POH out and showed him the speeds he should be flying and that maybe he should consider a different flight instructor. Now after a gear up incident the plane is repaired and he still using the same instructor.. how do you tell someone they are an accident waiting to happen?

[James-lyim]

I am from salmon Idaho
I fly backcountry quite often. My instructor made me promise to not fly after 10 am. He put the fear of God in me. I have stuck to my promise and so far it’s kept me alive. Backcountry flying is awesome but very little room for error. Bless all pilots to learn from this video and your other videos. Thanks Juan
Bless the families that have lost loved ones. It’s not easy to lose a loved one to aviation.

[jakemagnuson]

I’m that kid in the jacket recording. I was pretty shaken from almost watching the worse wreck I’ve seen.

[zacharygerkin]

Definitely a great case I will be sharing with my students. Just from the energy management perspective, there is a lot to be studied here. Keep up the great work

[Helfiredrew]

Thank you for sharing this. I was one of the firefighters that responded to the fatal accident in August this year. An unfortunate scene that I'll have in the back of my mind forever. Tragic loss. RIP to the pilot and passenger. Condolences those having to bear the loss.

[krissfemmpaws]

Thanks for the followup Juan, it sheds light on the mistakes made, and repeated on his last flight.

[darksidemachining]

Great Video. Went back and rewatched the first video where the incident was verbally described by a witness of the fatal crash in August. Amazing how his description of the fatal mishap almost beat for beat matched the video footage of this barely completed go around.

[carosel]

After your last video on this accident i fired up my fs2020 sim and shot some approaches in a full loaded 172. I am not a qualified pilot, but have about 25 hours in gliders from uni. In any case my 3 hours of messing around taught me a great deal. Initially i found landing there a breeze, as i sat comfortably in my chair with no stress or worries about messing it up. Then i deliberately attempted a go around from the same place as this guy. At the time you add power it looks golden, like you have all the time and space in the world, but i discovered very fast that those trees are taller and closer than you think once you factor in the altitude and reduced performance of the aircraft. Your point about mushing when pulling the flaps in is also spot on, as my virtual cessna almost found out during my experiments. I then remembered i had not added the tail wind he had on the day of the accident. This made landing almost impossible and the only way i got in was flying much further down the valley. I could really see how pilots can be sucked into a situation with few or no ways out. while i didnt have any crashes, i was sat stress free (ish, i was getting tired after 3 hours) in my computer chair with a respawn button to bail me out. Under real conditions it would be so easy to make a mess of it.

[daveh]

Thank you Juan! I cannot express the value that your videos and explanation add to general aviation! I am a low-hours SEL retired pilot who has a F-35 Pilot as a neighbor. We both appreciate your work! You are LEGEND at Luke AFB Juan! Be well and THANK YOU, Sir!❤❤

[chrisg]

Another needless loss of life.
Thank you for this update.

[patrickchase]

The guy just wasn't competent to land there, but didn't know enough to recognize it or wasn't willing to admit it. A sad example of the Dunning-Kruger principle in action.

[staylame]

Interesting to note that the cowl flaps are open. Checklists call for them to be closed for landing. Perhaps it is another indication of a lack of checklist usage.

[leadyou]

Wow catching that same plane on video months before the accident is insane i feel like if you didnt learn from that event you probably never were going to learn

[gcorriveau]

RE: Narrator comment: "...at this point he needs to bite the bullet and stay on the ground.." I fully agree. Sometimes the ingrained training about going around from a PIO can be applied out of context. Going off the far end at a survivable speed is the better of two evils compared to the go-around stall/spin likelihood. Sadly, this all provides a classic training moment ("How NOT to do this...") for everyone except that pilot who needs it most. RIP.

[ikefork]

Years ago I had a friend who was a high-time USAF C-130 pilot, who happened to own a C-206. We were flying at night back to his home airport (Potomac Airfield, KVKX). I was a relatively new Private Pilot in the right seat. My friend, LTC Don, really impressed me with his precision flying abilities that night. He was laser focused and flew the approach in a short field landing configuration, making precise corrections to airspeed and glide path all the way down to his aim point (touchdown) with a level of precision I have rarely seen since! He possessed extraordinary flying skills and was a master aviator of the highest caliber!

[The_Noticer_of_Things]

Absolute class per the usual, Juan. Good job threading the needle of conveying the unacceptable behaviors for those who might need to hear it and maintaining respect for the deceased.

[IndyLovelace-pw]

Great follow up on this story. Good to see the earlier attempt and go around

[jamesbdriver]

Thanks Juan, you had me screaming at my screen watching that! Jeeeezz!!