P99 CONF - Zig vs Rust

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[fyndor]

"I started a new project inspired you, Prime, called Ligma"... hahahaha this man project names with the best of us

[xavhow]

Programmers conference...
A: I don't get XX. B: This is a skill issue.
Announcement: A has left the room.

[pmcgee]

Mostly Zig vs Rust.
23:00 Build & Distribution
32:50 Interfaces
35:50 Tools
39:20 Mojo
44:50 C++

[johanngambolputty]

The thing that unites rust and zig enjoyers: not having to put up with c++ anymore ;) brings a tear (of joy) to my eye

[josemata]

I haven't watched the video but obviously C# is going to win

[UsatiyNyan]

I, personally, didn’t like this public execution of a “talk”.
The dynamic here is much like riding the scapegoat and the atmosphere of zig hype didn’t help at all.
Also it seems that the Rust “advocate” came unprepared.
The conversation was very poorly moderated, and host should have had expressed less favouritism, otherwise it simply isn’t fair.
I couldn’t bear it, sorry.
Prime, you can do better.

[alanbaumann]

Both Zig and Rust are cool. But this came off mostly as three zig users trying to convince a rust user that they really should be using zig.

[StingSting]

Bun guy wearing his mascot on his head is so cute 🥰

[shampoable]

seems like having a producer for such events would be nice, dealing with technical issues distracted Prime from the talk

[krellin]

it is so strange how i can recognize colleges that are just like these 3 gents,
there is the rust believer, there is me who tried it and passed on it,
there is the guy that dives so low level i feel like a junior.

[thearrow]

This was just a 3 zig dudes trying to bully the rust non english native speaker for 55 minutes...

[Garejoor]

For the Turso people, it's not a good idea to expose company dynamics in public - EVERY company has that one guy who is very set on their choices

[SnowDaemon]

I think Pekka makes the best point:
yes, while some things in Rust suck, and "may" be better in Zig.
it's not THAT big of a deal.
it would have to be a HUGE deal to switch languages, fire your engineers that dont want to write Zig, find and hire Zig engineers, and re-write your codebase.
like all that, just because Zig does a minor thing better. lol. You can tell Glauber doesnt have to write the code or deal with the engineers.

[rubiskelter]

Please, someone create a cross compiler between Zig and go, we can have Zigo

[cariyaputta]

Holy cow, the channel has many of the heavy hitters lately. And I'm all for it.

[nomadtrails]

Prime, always a man of the people, puts the chat up, while talking shit on the chat's opinions 😂... EDIT: CHAT IS GONE

[daltonyon]

Watching again!! I want see more opinions of Rust vs Zigs

[kobi]

When did prime stop saying blazingly ?

[hanes]

The Bryan Cantrill talks always awesome to watch

[kanji_nakamoto]

Regardless of languages, I'd rather work with Jarred, then the cult guy!

Jarred just answered the questions, provided good feedback, open to the idea of using other languages, e.g. C++. That's exactly the right mindset. Glauber made great points but Pekka seems to not be open to other ideas, which I believe would be very hard to work in his team.