CppCon 2014: 'Grill the Committee'

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Jon Kalb • Marshall Clow • John Lakos • Chandler Carruth • Herb Sutter • Alisdair Meredith • Howard Hinnant • Michael Wong • Pablo Halpern • Stefanus Du Toit • Stephan T. Lavavej • Walter E. Brown • Nevin Liber • Marshall Clow
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[TubeFish]

Those five word Q&As -- that's such a good idea, I wish they had done it from the half-hour mark. Maybe they could take the question in the form of a haiku? That gives 17 syllables, which should be enough to play with.

[TimTR]

Part 2
2) Pragmas: Yeah I kinda agree, although pragmas are "a possibility for compiler vendors to add to the preprocessor". But things like pragmas to link to libraries (vc++) are useful and therefor should be taken into consideration for some standardization.
3) Alignment: There has been made some additions to alignment to the standard in C++11. (alignof, alignas, align, ...)

[kamilziemian]

1:16:05 "Artur can you say your name and ask a question?" It says everything that you need to know about Arthur O’Dwyer. 😁

[Predelnik]

And some guy started to play hearthstone the last minute :D

[TimTR]

Part 3
5) Name Mangling: I also agree that typeinfo should always return the same result on every compiler, but I sure hope no one intends to do some checkings with type name representations as strings (evil).

But in the end your only chance for change are proposals.

[TimTR]

Part 1

0) short, long, long long: I don't know what you mean? You cannot simply replace them with int64_t etc. because different architectures perform differently. Restricting implementations here is more a hazard than a benefit.
1) Compiler Error Messages: This can't be archived by the standards comitee.

[bnn]

>>= it's bitwise right shift assignment operator, is not a trigraph

[lincolnsand]

12:26 literal types exist (essentially typedefs), but they're weak and using classes is not great. I would love a units library. It would be extremely useful to me.

[kamilziemian]

Many C++ programmers wake up at night screaming, because they have a nightmare in which C++ committee add some awful feature to C++.

[MichaelPohoreski]

/Oblg. C++ compiler joke. There are 2 problems with C++:

1. It's design, and
2. It's implementation.

[origamibulldoser]

A year later, with more C++11/14 experience ... I don't think C++ can ever be fixed.

[lincolnsand]

Did that guy just say `undefined behavior is good`? That's the most brain damaged thing I've ever heard.

[MichaelPohoreski]

C++ has many brilliant people working on it **sadly C++ has become a complete clusterfruck of over-engineering.**

Crap like **short, long, long long, ** should have been deprecated _years_ ago. _Practical_ benefits like having _standardized_ Compiler Error Messages, Pragmas, Alignment, never Inline, Name Mangling are completely ignored.

[johnyossarian]

The language is more complicated than the problems that it is used to solve. For god sake let it die.