The United States Is Still In Philly

At least for now... But for how long?
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[mikebarushok]

On Google maps there is a street view available of a walking route on the main deck.

[Shmoozo]

Another possible consideration for moving it down river and out to sea as the tide is going out (during the period when low tide is approaching) would be that the water in the river will be moving toward the ocean which will facilitate the move by making it easier.

I worked at Sun Shipbuilding and Drydock Company back in the 1970s. Sun Ship was on the Delaware River covering roughly a mile or perhaps a bit more straddling the border between Chester and Eddystone, which was, of course, south of the airport. They used to launch ships at what was called "slack tide" on the high tide portion of the tidal cycle

"Slack tide" was when the water in the tidal portion of the river stopped flowing upstream and more or less stood still in the river for a little while before it began to flow downstream as the tide was moving out. Launching a ship in the slack tide made it easier for the tug boats to get connected to the huge, unpowered, floating hulk of steel and control it as they moved it over to the pier in the southern end of the yard to complete the process of building the ship. And as the they were moving it the tide would be starting to flow down river which was the direction they needed to move it, so that helped them a bit.

[tme]

In France a similar boat "Le Lydia" thathas been set on land and transformed into casino / restaurants in the 80's
Now it is owned by the city for fully restoration

[lorensims]

A longer time sample may be called for but it looks to me that the ship is moving more than it would if it were really stuck in the mud. I'm impressed that it's still there but it really does need a lot of love and care if anyone has the money to do it.
There just isn't a market for transatlantic vessels like this anymore.

[Eman-vpwk]

What a shame it is to sink a ship like that.
They only got 18 years of service out of that ship.

[myleft]

It's moving!! Which suggests it's floating? No? I had never heard about this ship until your previous video. Subsequently I read about it, and find all this fascinating. Also, it's my understanding you're right about the paint. Metal ships, like navy ships and such, are painted regularly mainly to prevent rust from spreading.

[prestonfreeman]

3-4 hours...hour before high and hour after would give the best visual change of movement. I would assume it's lighter than when it was docked. But the sea level could have changed since then.

[elektronkim]

They get huge cruise ships in here in my Norwegian city. It's hard to take photos of these types of enormous constructs. The real experience is more intense as if they create gravity or something.

[DanRyan-vy]

Interesting story about an interesting ship
Recently seen another video about the Savannah, the worlds one and only nuclear cargo/ passenger ship.

The guy who made the video visited it when it was in a similar condition to the united states and took us on a tour round.
The good news is that some enthusiasts have taken it on and managed to get it to a reasonable condition, including a lot of the novel one off features from inside. They even have a sectioned reactor shell that you can walk tbrough ( decommissioned of course).

Iirc it is now in baltimore or somewhere similar, a good lokking ship.

It was worrying that the Queen Mary was decomposing theough neglect over the covid season. But it seems that people have managed to reverse that and she is hopefully on the way back to her former glory.
I hope that the United States can also find some loving

[PortCharmers]

If te tides would follow a perfect sine-curve (which they should do on the high seas, and they most shurely don't in a complicated coastal situation or up a tidal river), the fastest change over time should be observable between high and low tides. And it is also possible thatshe floats up around hight tideand settles in the mud at some point on the way to low tide.
Since you mentioned USS New Jersey, I very much enjoy and highly recommend their YouTube channel.
I'm really in two minds about United States. On the one hand, I would like to see her preserved, and a civilized nation should take care of their heritage and fork over some public funding to keep buildings going which by themselves would no longer be economic. I also realized in a report about the RMS Queen Mary that the narrative often goes that public funding will be burnt in the oven and the ship will magically mend itself. That is of course not the case. Public funding will be used to employ a host of workers for quite some time to fix her up.
On the other hand, "tradition is keeping the flame going, not keeping the ashes" (clever quotes I can remember, but usually I cannot remember who said it). As a ship, she is no longer relevant, and for 30 years, various groups have in vain tried to find another purpose for her, and there just appears to be too little interest by the public.

[meh]

Good, I hope it stays there.
I'm British and I've heard quite enough about that insane country.

[randyshoquist]

Nice memories exist now. If you enjoy nostalgia, you're enjoying it in the present.

[martinpd]

I wonder if you should revisit your thrme song. Your solo shows taste and there is a little harmonic rumble at the very end that I'd just assume reccured thtoughout the piece.

[RobArt]

Do you know if the hull has been surveyed by commercial divers so the tugs know if the bottom is stuck in mud or it is free enough to move?

[silveravnt]

I did not expect philosophy. What a great take on nostalgia.

[RapiBurrito]

Fran we all have to move on, hoping that the things of our youth will remain or survive us is irrational. The reality is that currently there are many other ships which are just as impressive and they can self-sustain. That which cannot justify its existence is doomed to go away sooner or later.

Permanence is an illusion and the way to deal with this is making new memories with what we have now, If that's not possible then depression is inevitable.

As a last point: you can only keep the things you're willing and able to support yourself.

[CARLiCON]

nice footage, if you 2x the high-tide time lapse, you can really see the fore & aft movement, but the up & down not so much..I agree it's probably in a channel of silt as you suggested

[jcthend]

love your live in the now thoughts I fully understand that

[donkeyboy]

I looked at my girlfriends pics taken September 8th and her anchor was up.

A current trend in the hot rod world is “rat rods”. Unpainted and rusty on the outside. The United States is the worlds biggest rat rod.

[Shmoozo]

If you really want to get an interesting time lapse, see if you can do it on a day when there is a really stiff, gusty wind blowing from the west or, better yet, from the southwest. The United States is riding high in the water, and that means the side of the ship presents a hell of a lot of sail area to the wind. You might be surprised at how much that thing moves when the wind is shoving it around, You will likely get to see its mooring lines tightening and slacking as it moves around, too.