The Ford Lightning's Serviceable Battery Pack Modules

Jordan and Antonio do an in-depth breakdown of the Ford F-150 Lightning Battery Modules

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[IamtheDill]

I want to congratulate and thank Corey for having the vision to start this channel. Every person on the Monroe team deserves this recognition and they have you to thank for it.

[justbillable]

Man I’m chomping at the bits here! I am a Production Supervisor for SKBA, the US based headquarters here in Ga. The NDA in our contracts prevent us from saying anything at all about what we build, but some of the comments are spot on while others are way off base (ahem…heat transfer). Truly enjoyed this video guys, it was intriguing seeing it from the outside in. Keep up the great work.

[capt_ramius]

F-150 Lightning owner here, SR XLT 312A. Really enjoying the series, thanks for such in-depth EV content!!

[mattbrew]

We have ten lightning pro’s deployed for work and they are absolutely outstanding. Thanks Munroe

[gmariogrand]

5k miles in I had my SR XLT Max Trailor Tow Package with 9.4kwh kit had a bettery module go bad and show low voltage, they had to replace it. It was done in about 1 1/2 months, the battery assembly itself came relatively quickly, 5 days. the main problem was getting a new lift JUST for the truck to be worked on.

Runs like a champ still, loving it.

[maxtorque]

Just one of the larger modules has the same capacity as the entire (useable) battery in my gen 1 BMW i3 (~16 kWh). Whilst cell chemistry and energy density has improved, it is the better packing ratio that is really driving that change!

[agi]

Munro live is an edutainment/infotainment channel showing application of the abstract and all of it's members get a chance to explain stuff it is one of the few channels which can make people watch long videos with enthusiasm and is it's strength.

[arto]

expensive to built this ford lighting battery back as what I understand. Munro channel has educated my understanding of these batteries how they are put together.

[freda]

Thank you Jordan and Antonio. Excellent presentation.

[koeniglicher]

20:45 - Mach-e has no SK Innovation cells. These are pouch cells from LG Energy (LGX E71a). Their chemistry is likely NMC-721.
The cells from F-150 Lightning are supplied by SK Innovation (as you said), likely with NMC 9 0.5 0.5 chemistry. So considerably more Nickel, less manganese and less cobalt.
The Mach-e is more similar to the Chevrolet Bolt because both packs are essentially engineered by LG Energy Solution (or LGChem as they were called earlier).

[kimle]

Just got my Lightning and no wonder it can't charge as fast as other design. Instead of those black rubber they should have put in cooling plate between the cells. This would allow them to have better control on thermal.

[lohithkumar]

Great work guys. Your channel is very unique and informative 👍

[Scott-smnm]

Masterful explanations and just the right level of detail. Excellent 'off the cuff' presentation skills and give high confidence of their background/knowledge.

[energyeve]

Thanks for sharing this. I recently accepted work as a battery manufacturing engineer working on pack assembly for Ford so you speaking of the next iteration of the cooling system is like you speaking directly to me haha. Thanks for sharing.

[MattLesak]

I would like to hear your thoughts on recycle-ability of the pack and probably of 2nd life use cases. Excellent tear down and always enjoy the videos.

[Derek_Read]

This is encouraging. I wonder if Munro can give viewers a guess as to when we might start to see aftermarket replacements for batteries and related tech. It makes more sense for a 3rd party to enter that market once serviceability is really feasible. With batteries it makes sense to replace degraded units, but as the tech improves (which is happening fast) it would also make sense to replace them with lighter ones or higher capacities, or longer lasting ones.

My Leaf is running at about 90% range after 7 years so replacement for me doesn't make sense yet, and it might not in future if Nissan still wants to charge as much for a replacement battery as they want today, but perhaps a 3rd party would change that (for all auto makers). Competition is good.

[lyfandeth]

Those slots in the aluminum plate also allow the plate to expand and contract, changing in length, without stressing the fastening areas. That's probably intentional to keep the aluminum flat instead of bulging up and down.

[matthewtrucker]

Nice video. For those who bought and admire with this truck - your battery problems will start on the 4th year of use or earlier. Soft packs+prismatic shape = worst for customer, but cheapest for manufacturer. Plus no adequate cooling will cause cells puffing = fast degradation.

[xxwookey]

I do like a serviceable pack, with modules one could re-use in other projects. Like the original tesla modules. These could become quite popular for that. The modern monolithic foam-gooped fasternless packs are no use at all for that sort of thing.

[awebuser]

Cooling is only really relevant in high-load situations, fast-charging in particular. Under driving use, the actual C-rating on the cell is completely trivial, leading to negligible heating. TBH, _heating_ the pack is the issue in colder climates