WHAT IF GOKU WAS IMMORTAL? - MOVIE

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[CesarACastillo]

Shenron has been known to give freebies especially to Goku’s friends cause they’re using his power to protect the earth rather than for personal gain.

I wonder what would happen if Piccolo trained 7-10 years in the Time Chamber. Seeing as he only needs water to survive he can get a couple gallons of water to live off of in the Chamber.

[brentjames]

1:12:26 ok everything is great there is just one detail right here i know that it’s for what if purposes but as stated earlier when future trunks went to main timeline “he never heard of goku having healing abilities or being immortal whatsoever” we also cant say that its a goku that is from a different timeline cuz his body got stolen on future trunks timeline. So i believe it should’ve stayed the same as canon. But yea good story

[themadmystic]

Here's an idea. What if both Goku AND Vegeta become immortal? Imagine how strong they'd be by constantly training full force. Assuming they get immortality in the namek saga, they'd be stronger than Beerus by the time he showed up.

[RedrumZombies]

Feel stuff is missing/forgotten.
Vegeta went in the chamber canonically 2x for the Cell Arc.
Goku would still arrive at Yardrat.

[Jerm.is.dead]

Hey man you’re doing amazing. I’m glad I’ve been here since the beginning. When I saw what if vegeta had G.O.D ki and commented to call it hakaishin unleashed and you actually did. Keep doing you dude! Your work is phenomenal🙏🏼

[biggiecheese]

Its crazy how much you have grown i was around on my other channel since below 5k

[LegendOfTheFLame]

Funny thing is Goku could had gotten immortality when he rescued turtle if roshi hadn't somehow killed the Phenix

[codenamedaki]

I feel like Zamasu might not have felt pain with his immortality due to the fact that, correct me if im wrong, he used the super dragon balls to make his wish, which would be exponentially stronger than using Earth's balls.

[alexandrughiurca]

"I always come back"
-William 'Springtrap' Afton

[victorthomas]

I love your content at checkout just as much as I can one thing I noticed around 4-5 minutes or so you said that Goku still got super saiyan and still want to planet yardrat but around 22 minutes you said that he learn Super Saiyan being in the hyperbolic Time Chamber training to fight cell and that he didn't go to Planet yardrat

[tammywillmott]

34:00 dont mess with us dragonball fans, we've only seen the abridged series

[kamiiz]

Great vid what if goku and vegeta was born gogeta and vegito

[LJk]

This was a good video but I feel like you underestimated the amount of zenkais goku would get and how much stronger he would be

[Qohsosmooth]

This is awesome. I've thought of this before whether or not kakarot could utilize something such as this him or vegeta

[evilgoku]

ngl i wouldnt mind seeing how he would do a what if on if chichi divorced goku

[InfiniteEscuro]

1) I think a True Immortality wish wouldn't even get hungry or thirsty. Logically they require no external energy like that, the magic of Shenron which heals them also should need to give them everything they need to be restored like this, or they could hit a point of dehydrating or starving, healing partially, but then just dying over and over. As much as it also makes some amount of story sense to give him some kind of weakness, True Immortality likely wouldn't allow fatigue. He would recover stamina and energy just as quickly as he healed, because being too drained of stamina and energy is just another way to die.

The reason I say this is because Cell gets tired and weaker over time despite his regeneration BECAUSE IT IS BIOLOGICAL and can be worn down bit by bit, merely giving him great stamina. Goku's healing is not a biological function his body has to do, it is purely magical, so there is no reason to give it the same drawbacks. Buu, a creature of pure magic with immense regeneration from it, never exactly seemed tired. Goku's regen would be like Buu's.

2) why did Gohan never flash into SSj2 in the chamber? You said it was because he just learned SSJ and just started... but that's exactly as it is in canon. This story only changes one key factor about Goku, everything else has already been happening as normal. Nothing that happened in the Android / Cell saga prior to the time chamber influenced Gohan into getting SSJ2, so that should have definitely still happened. He wouldn't need to use Gohan to beat Cell, of course, as with Super Kaioken there is no reason for this Goku to be weaker than canon SSJ2 Gohan, but he would still see that glimmer of the higher level.

3) weird that Piccolo agreed to never tell Goku about the fact that he was immortal. Piccolo was enraged by Goku letting Gohan fight to go SSJ2 because it was not in Gohan's nature to fight, he hated it, and he didn't think like Goku did. I don't see why, as this point in there friendship, Piccolo wouldn't think the same amount keeping immortality secret from Goku - it goes completely against his nature and the longer he goes without knowing, the more likely he is to hold resentment towards those involved, now also including Piccolo who has become a part of the secret.


4) personally I'm not the biggest fan of SSJ3 being pulled out. I subscribe to the headcanon that it's a limit breaking form which no ordinary Saiyan can achieve in the regular world. Goku was dead and training in a higher dimension for years. Gotenks was a Fusion training singlemindedly for a year in the time chamber. I think it would have made more sense to have Goku pull out Super Kaioken once more at a higher multiplier. It would only need to be a x3 or higher to surpass SSJ2, which is only a x2 multiplier on SSJ, and beyond that, it would be fun to bring back something that Goku learned he could use *_purely because_* he is immortal, whereas SSJ3, once learned, can be used by a normal mortal body just fine, as we've seen Goku do.

5) even with Goku and a happier Vegeta there to train them, I am of the definite opinion that Goten and Trunks are pure and simply too young to figure out and withstand SSJ2. As far as we know, they've not even had their base Super Saiyan forms for a year. They have in no way mastered the forms the same way as Goku, Gohan or Vegeta did. I don't think, personally, that it should even be possible for a Saiyan to fully tap into SSJ2, even in a burst of rage as an incited transformation instead of training, until they master Full Power Super Saiyan / Grade 4. Besides, them having the forms changes nothing, so why even.

6) again I disagree with something. It absolutely is COMPLETELY outlandish that Ultimate Gohan is any stronger. Training does not increase your potential. Staying fit does not increase your potential. Neither of these should change anything, since Elder Kai, the oldest and most powerful Supreme Kai in Universe 7 excluding maybe the Grand Supreme Kai who Buu absorbed, grants Gohan *_every single bit_* of all of his possible potential. He is set to the limit of basically a fully mastered SSJ3, but has all that power from his base form. He should be no different than this.

The only two things which could change his potential are God Ki, which he lacks, or being fully grown, which he is not yet as he is the same age. Remember, he's only sixteen. Ultimate Gohan who is 26 instead is probably significantly stronger simply because his fully adult body can actually grasp its full potential. This is the same thought process behind the idea that even if his potential was unlocked by Elder Kai somehow when he was a kid, he wouldn't have been even a hundredth of his Buu saga Ultimate form.

The simple admittedly headcanon reason for this is that because Gohan was part of the God Ritual, his potential was altered due to his mystic form, so he could grasp God Ki from the ritual the same way Vegeta did and could then train for it. Because of this ritual, he could go into the same higher potential of god powers that Goku and Vegeta had with SSJ God and Blue.

Ultimate sets Gohan to the maximum possible mortal potential he has, end of. I don't agree with him being stronger, the same way I wouldn't agree with him being weaker, because he is functionally the exact same as in canon, just without being rusty.

7) if you're going to make Gohan way, way more powerful, then Super Buu wouldn't be only a bit stronger, he would be leaps and bounds stronger. In canon, *_base Vegito_* was already massively powerful, able to deflect massive amounts of power from Super Buu, who had Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan. Super Vegito was then unfathomable leagues of strength beyond him. If Gohan is already at THAT level, then this version of Buuhan, even without Gotenks, would force Vegito into SSJ2 at the very least, but THEN the fight would go the same as in canon.

8) Goku Black got immortality after fusing with Zamasu because at the end of the day, they are BOTH Zamasu in mind and soul. The Potara fusion between them was significantly deeper and more innate than between Goku and Vegeta. I agree that there should be no way Vegeta gains immortality from this fusion.

9) No reason for the Dragon Balls to be unable to scour Goku's immortality from him. They gave it to him, they can take it away. But of course, as soon as he loses it, the story ends. So I guess that's also why Beerus doesn't care about the immense insult of an immortal, given that it interrupts creation and destruction.

10) personally I also... don't think Goku could limit break to jump to Ultra Instinct. He could only learn it legitimately through training. Why? Well, because his transformation into Omen was described as a limit break to shatter his shell and save his life, because otherwise, the spirit bomb would have killed him. Here, even subconsciously, he would have not nearly as much of a drive to power up to survive it, because he knows for sure he would be *_fine._*

11) I don't think Beerus would bother resurrecting Freeza here because Freeza wasn't the linchpin that gave them a win. Freeza was basically just there to fill up the contestant quota, he wouldn't make enough of an impact to be worth a revival. So no Black Freeza.

Anyway, all things considered, that's all the feedback / disagreements I have. By and large, I do still think this was a good and interesting story. Thank you for it.

[OdezzYT]

Here is an idea : What If Goku knew about Beerus early ?

[JCardo]

Considering Goku is inspired by Freaking Sun Wukong, this is fitting

[drewmorrison]

Isn’t a part of being a Saiyan that when they almost die and recover, they become much stronger?

Well if they never “almost die” then maybe that would inhibit their strength gains.

[MoistToucan]

Trunks timeline being the same makes things much easier, so I have no problems with that. Makes sense for time travel