Platone - Luciano Canfora

Canale creato da Luca Baldanza

[manlioerta]

Eccellente, come sempre. Grande Maestro.

[yuripalazzo]

che meraviglia ascoltare Luciano Canfora: cultura vertiginosa, grandissimo senso dell'umorismo, ragionamenti solidissimi dal punto di vista logico e non banali. Meraviglia.

[antoniopizzolatotroia]

Ci sono i podcast di Canfora, che meraviglia !

[antonellauno]

Messaggio tra le righe sulla schiavitù come forma di ricchezza chi vuol intendere intenda...lectio magistralis grandissimo Canfora

[sergiococo]

Diderot, la Pompadour, il Critone Canfora spesso è delizioso

[MiPacio]

Forse la signora che fa le domande dovrebbe asltare meglio le risposte

[diesdomini]

Il prof. Canfora parla di Platone e la voce femminile che si è inserita - ma a che titolo? - a parlare delle solite cose : i diritti, i diritti, i diritti. E la parità dei doveri? Nessuno ne ha, quando mai? Avrebbe fatto meglio a non insistere.

[giorgioderosa]

Più si tengono lontani e più il concetto democratico scema nelle grinfie di qualche cosca. Un personaggio come questo, dovrebbe avere una scrivania al centro del "transatlantico", in Parlamento. I vari parlamentari potrebbero rivolgersi ad egli, ed essere consigliati prima di ogni votazione. Chiaramente, Canfora non è un gigante unicum, vi sono altri che potrebbero dare un contributo di equilibrio ed equità, una visione plurale. Una mia dozzinale utopia evidentemente, che evidenza comunque una carenza culturale. Macellare il pensiero di queste miniere viventi, non coinvolgendone il proprio sapere nella vita decisionale di un paese, non è miopia, ma la cecità assoluta. Quando Conte andò a dialogare con Emanuele Severino, pensai ad una grande rivoluzione, poi cadde in prescrizione ogni tentativo di svolta. Grazie Prof. Canfora!

[IKnowNeonLights]

I just, (as in the night passing) saw the (blind swordsman, known among many fans, as itchy) and in the same tradition of such method of being, (as the one of the blind swordsman), I will itchy about a few words, because if anyone is on a itchy mode, then itching has to be undertaken, and the best itching is, as the one itchy the blind swordsman conduct's effortlessly, in his being as a character of that of a blind swordsman.

Plato is one of the most "published philosophers", and for that "reason" should have been the one most avoided by anyone interested in philosophy, especially until being and ways of being are well established within anyone as philosophy, and for anyone that should be a considerable part of their life.

Because above all possible things the publishings of Plato are, is that of a very bad analytical very long attempt, in trying to consolidate two very different forms of law, yet very similar only on the being law types.

Bad analytical attempt, (I emphasise, because all analytical methods and ways are in their existence silly, and as a consequence bad).

The two forms of law I refer to are, (one) the unwritten laws that would have existed during the supposed writings of Plato, especially in and around the city of Athens (all the way to Macedonia, Southern Italy, and Illyria, and very much related to mythology, (hence universal).

The other is the type of law known as (Hammurabi code), very much related to rulers rules, especially once it was written.

Both types of laws, would have originated with general people of the respective areas of location, and often be quite extremely similar, by the default of both locations being populated with people.

The huge difference is that of the hard copy writing on one form, and the maintaining of the unwritten in being, of the other form.

Once the two locations clashed, and where forced to overlap, then in relation to any type of a city habitat, such as Athens, the written form would have had an advantage, over the unwritten form, (especially if injustice was about among its habitants, and their relations with outside the city, through commerce, war, politics and social relationships).

Yet at the same period, the unwritten form would have had an advantage over the written form, within a city like Athens, and most certainly all around it, all the way to Macedonia Southern Italy and Illyria, through the very same contacts of commerce, war, politics and social relationships.

I will not say, because of freedom and clash of civilisations, (because that can be arguable), but instead I will point to the silliness undisputed being in form, of what is known as analytical method.

Which would have forced one location to write the laws down on hard copy and another location to keep them unwritten, only in being with and among the people (by one location being very analytical, and the other being very far from such form of thought)

Because the writing any of such laws, (for the locations that lived through the unwritten form of the laws) would have been stating the obvious in writing them down, and stating the obvious in the locations where the laws remained unwritten, was used in a much more entertaining form of thought, known by many as paradoxes.

Paradoxes are silly, because paradoxes state the obvious, and stating the obvious is the core of analytical method of thinking.

Plato and "his writings" have made a real mess of even analytical method of thinking.

I often feel forced to write in a analytical form, which I put it down to living in a analytical world system by now, and because I despise it, I make it as silly as possible, with as many paradoxes as possible, and loaded with often stupid contradictions, as it is always the best way to state the obvious and be involved in a analytical method of being, exactly as a blind swordsman.

In this lecture, as in all lectures women make the most necessary appearance as "a subject", and because of that I will tell a joke.

In the joke there are protagonists as women characters and men characters, if anyone will know who is who once reading the joke, then anyone will know if their primary way of thinking (being) is that of a analytical method or that of being method.

One method is what philosophy is, the other is what a catalogue is.

A general lives with his battalion as general would. His primary work is to inspect all the time. Among his duties of inspection a women is there on her duties as well, working as the battalions secretary.

The woman is young, single, beautiful and physically fit, and because of that, she makes full use of all possible pleasures of her own choice through social relationships.

The general has obviously noticed this, through his meticulous attention to inspections. One afternoon the general begins a conversation with the young woman, pointing to his attention to detail, in this case regarding the young woman.

The young woman being put into an intentional spot and especially being young, single, beautiful and physically fit, states the obvious and entertains the conversation.

The general gets more and more attentioned with the details, to the point where the young woman, (knowing her abilities as a single, beautiful, physically fit young woman) states the obvious again and says.

In a (fair flick) I can hold more than my own with the best there is.

The general says. I can see that, but you cannot make that kind of a bold statement. The young woman responds. I said in a fair flick, (knowing of being this woman and knowing of being this man).

I don't believe it. Says the general. You don't have to, but it is the truth. Says the young woman. It cannot be. Yes it is. And so on continues the conversation for a while.

Look! Say's the general, there are young men in the battalion that would dispute your claim. I have the t shirts say's the young woman. I bet you don't. Says the general. And you would be losing that bet say's the woman.

Let's bet! Bet what? One month's wages. You will lose. It's ok, but I think I will win. Ok the bet is on, a fair flick with anyone in the battalion. Good it is on.

The general checks his inspections and finds what he thinks is the best candidate. The date is set and the bet is on.

The young man and the young woman go in, to establish the bet to it's wining side. After a fair while the young man comes out first, physically troubled. The general expects to find the woman in a worst condition in the room, once in, he finds her as if nothing had happened physically and smoking a cigarette.

He pays the lost bet, and begins to think of another candidate. Goes to the woman and says. Let's bet again. You will lose. Says the woman. It's ok, I want to bet again. Ok it is your money.

Again the same as before, the general pays the lost bet, and this happens with about four or five monthly wages.

Now the wife of the general, has noticed through her own inspections, that no money has been coming home recently and confronts the general.

The general is ashamed but mostly afraid to tell her about his new gambling habit. His wife reassures him, by saying (whatever it is we will confronted it as a family, just tell me).

The general tells all the details of his new gambling habit to his wife. The wife says nothing and both of them go to bed.

In the morning, the wife says to her husband! Look, this is what you are going to do, ask for another bet, this time bet all what you have lost, plus one extra monthly wage on top.

If she accepts the bet, challenge her to have a fair flick with four candidates one after the other. If she accepts, chose the best candidates, stop their daily physical training, instruct them to eat a strict diet of honey and nut's for two days before the bet day, and on the bet day, as soon as one is finished, allow no break and send in the other and so on. Ok!?! Ok. Says the husband.

I want to bet again. Says the general to the woman. Look, you have lost a lot of money, and you have a family, I am young, single, beautiful and physically fit, I actually like to do this, it is not a chore to me, and you will lose more money.

I want to bet again and this time this amount of money and he begins to tell her, just as his wife had instructed him. The young woman, maybe because of the money, maybe because of the challenge, maybe because of confidence accepts the bet.

Bet day is on, the young men are there, the young woman and the general are present. It begins, one goes in and comes out, the second goes in and hope for the general begins to be heard, but the second comes out nonetheless, the third goes in and hope sounds even better for the general this time, but it is shattered once the third comes out also. Upon the fourth going in, the woman comes out, and being quite a bit out of physical sorts, admits to have lost the bet.

The general is very very happy, and in his office the young woman goes in and counts all the money of the bet lost. The general is very very happy.

Before leaving the woman looks at the general in the face and tells him.

Look general, I don't know how you did this or who as told you how to do this!!!

But whoever did, I want you to know it from me, that they are more of a bitch than me.

Have a lovely day.