KALISTA BUG AT WORLDS? (My Investigation + Replay Review)

"Kalista bug did in fact happen..." Reddit thread:

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[KushKoi]

“The ability looks ready but isn’t ready to use” yeah that’s called the league experience and it happens all the time to my junglers smite

[reniuma]

> Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/leagueoflegends.

[mikeviray]

i liked the joke on caedrels stream that HANS saw that Elks Ezreal was too chinese thats why he paused

[urgotbostero]

basically Hans Sama tried to E Rumble but couldn't because he went on Zhonyas, but because Sylas went out of Zhonyas at the same time his E went off on him instead and didn't reset, so when Hans Sama tried again to E Rumble after his Zhonyas, he didn't have it anymore, unlucky timing that Sylas went off as Kalista E'd Rumble

[OneWayTwoBrazil]

Schrödinger’s Zhonya’s Hourglass icon and vfx, thanks Vanguard 👍

[Waterproofmonk]

Why are some people pressed that you took time to analyze this lmao. Great video Vandril! Eventhough I was sure it wasn't a bug, it was nice to get your review of it all :) Have a great day everyone!

[alunerys]

Never happened before and here we go again

[TheAlmaju]

I imagine Hans was looking at Rumble, press E, E doesn't work because of Zhonya but what he missed is that it actually worked on the Sylas next to him that just got out of Zhonya. And then he was confused why he couldn't E because he thought the first time he pressed it the spell was not available.

[julokk]

i have flash backs from Darius bug G2 had in the same place XDD

[purde]

Kalista's E has other bugs too:
- All skins seem to have the bug shown with the wolf, and it happens on minions as well.
- What other shenanigans can happen are that sometimes her E resets but it doesn't register that she killed a minion. This could have something to do with delays and tick rates, as the minion does die right when she E's, but she doesn't get gold for it.
- Another thing is her passive saying "Kalista's AA cannot be cancelled", well they definitely can. If you time your AA with E in an unfortunate way. This can happen when her AS suddenly changes, like end of Rageblade bugg or Lethal Tempo. She is clearly in the middle of her AA animation and then you press E anticipating that she is attacking faster and you don't realize that she slowed down, and instead of finishing her AA animation, she interupts it and E's instead. What should happen is, her E is not triggered until she finishes her AA.
- Bonus bug is sometimes if you time her AA, E and Q together for poke or quick and surprising kill, it's like she goes crazy and forgets to Q, so she actually Q's like a second or two after you pressed it. Granted, it doesn't happen that often and I reckon you need some experience to do this anyway, especially if you time it with a flash+Q.

Source: I got over 2 million points on my Spear Girl.

[nloadergd]

i cant believe it will be flyquest vs t1 in worlds finals...

[Mason]

I wonder if this has anything to do with zhonyas having a variable time duration. Riot August said it does on stream just like morgana q. Saw it from a clip on the HeWhoQuacksss channel, and the clip is in the video "August on BURST & BARRIER / Why Some Bugs Never Get Fixed (RENGAR, VIEGO)" if you wanna check.

[testbug]

1:00 When slowed down, you can see how impressive Bin's Zhonya timing was
It's down to the last AA, and waited until the spear is an inch away before hitting him
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In such stressful teamfight that can design the winner of the series, which is an elimination series, he waited till the last 0.1 second in the situation that he can't miss

[trevormeed]

Tldr, its amazing anything works in this game. Its all minions

[somebodie]

For the wolf thing at 1:40, I dont think thats a Kalista E bug, but instead a bug with the small wolves. I say this, because when you use Mundo E on them it will always do the AoE projectile, no matter if the small wolf actually died from the E or not

[joaonovo]

There was a window where hans could have E to do damage to both but since that frame rumble was already in Zhonyas but didn’t appear to be, he thought it was a bug 6:19

And this only happens because the game is in 30hz and not in 60hz because if it was 60hz he would be able to cast E while killing both, because those frames that are not counted in for the game have a lot of influence in the outcome of that fight. It has to do with the response between your click and the server registers the attack, even in 0 ping things like this have a lot of influence, and that’s why Valorant and CS2 tournaments are run in 120h to have as low as input response possible between the server and the client so thing appear smother while being responsive.

[BrunooHenrique]

Ii've had a bug with Soraka's ult some years ago, pressed R at the exact frame i died and it didn't go off but it went on cooldown for me. When i alt-clicked it to show the cooldown in chat it said "Ready", had to the whole 150s cooldown to be able to ult. Yes, my teammates flamed me for not ulting as for they, it was marking it as ready. We won the game, it was the enchanter/ardent meta.

[heitorargenta]

For gamechanging bugs for competitive I always remember the Ryze Portal having kind of an ability to look for players trying to leave and even when they are inside they are not teleported, this happened in Keyd vs INTZ battle to avoid relegation Ryze ulted to win the game for Keyd and the Ashe wasn't teleported even inside leaving the ADC alone in the back making INTZ win the game and relegate Keyd.

[Joonixx]

The order of events:
Sylas goes in
Kalista stacks spears on Sylas
Sylas goes into Zhonya
Kalista switches to stack spears on Rumble
Sylas is about to exit Zhonyas
Kalista presses E (rend) right as Sylas is exiting Zhonyas
Rumble goes into Zhonyas right as Sylas is exiting Zhonyas
Kalista was trying to rend Rumble, get the reset as Sylas is exiting Zhonyas, and kill Sylas.

It was just an unfortunate timing and/or bad judgment for Hans. Kalista didn't rend in time before Rumble used Zhonyas and so when he used rend he thought in his head "I kill Rumble with rend, then get reset and kill Sylas." Either he has to rend a half second earlier or he should have switched targets to Sylas (as he did do) and kill Sylas with rend, get the reset, then kill Rumble. Looking at all of the fight it legit just looks like he thought he would rend Rumble right as Sylas is leaving Zhonyas and then instantly kill Sylas as well. Instead Rumble had a great timing on his Zhonyas.

[TurboBG]

“The ability looks ready but isn’t ready to use” as a pyke main i feel this