Why INTJs are Optimistic Nihilists

This video explains why INTJs tend to have a level-head in most situations.

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[shawnw.]

"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." Yup, death is inevitable so while I do think about it my focus is to get from life the most of what I'm interested in.

[danam]

The random acts of kindness really touches me as well… I rarely cry except when I’m overwhelmed by the beauty of something.

[okay_art]

I am a 15-year-old INTJ, and I think what keeps me going is my goal. I have been through a lot of trauma and what always helped me through the hell of life was being able to relate to characters in fiction that had harder things happen to them, but they got up anyway. I want to be an author and if I can help just one other person like me to know they're not alone, then I think it's worth it.
It also helps my mental health to write characters that reflect what I feel.

[yournidom]

I'm currently with my mom as she is actively dying. My Ni/Fi are intense witnessing this end of life stage. The timing of your video gives me a sense of peace regarding this intensity. I'm grappling with a lot. You thanked us for being here but I want to thank YOU for being here! This video was so timely. I'll be back soon to offer a short audio reflection.

[emart]

"If a man will begin with
certainties, he shall end
in doubts; but if he will
be content to begin with
doubts, he shall end in
certainties." - Francis Bacon

[TonyDaExpert]

I am in my early 20s, the world at a large feels hopeless, there is a lot you cannot change, however you can improve and help people and things around you, thats where the positivity comes from for me. I can seem p negative and am still behind in that aspect when I see what certain people do, but in the end I will never stop trying to improve myself and help those who deserve it because I am set in trying to make the future better whether I feel like it or not, whether I am sad or happy, hopeless or hopeful, I will never stop trying to better things around me. If its too unrealistic to change the world or yourself in a big way start in the smallest way you can then have it grow to something bigger down the line.

[andreteles]

I will put this one on the list of things that make me think I am mistyped as an INTJ.

Personally, I actively rejected nihilism, absudism and pessimism and so on, mostly due to incongruences with epistemological, ontological and even linguistic principles. I am unable to express in words how better my life became after I found a positive and optimistic-realistic outlook on life and existence as a whole. Reading Viktor Frankl’s technical works was responsible for such change of perspective.

My perspectives on the human condition and suffering were not just a result of direct or indirect experience, but also of intellectual inquiry. “To be a man is to be responsible”. Thus, to claim one or more of these perspectives as lenses is a choice and, as such, it is wise to choose the one that will give you the sharpest of images instead of darnkened vision and headaches

[coolbreez]

You articulated it so well, i felt understood and validated. It touched deeply, brought tears! For me throught of death is never so far away that it would generate unimaginable fear in me. I had processed inevitability lf mortality when i was young. So, In my college years, i developed this thinking, that that "if I die tomorrow, how would i like to have lived my life while I am alive and have least regeret?" And for me the answer was by learning something new everyday, doing my best in whatever I do as work, ". I used to pained by all the things you mentioned but now my profession allows me to do something meaningful for the people and I am happy channeling my energy into it. And I dont watch/read news/newspaper. I can't, the way news has become so superficial and subjective now.

For the question you asked: despite all the bad in the world, what gets me going is "i am alive today and I should do my best and use it to learn/do something new or what I like."

And in adverse situation, i determine and promise my self that i will go ahead and test my own limits of perseverance and potential till it reaches my inner core, i will leave/detach myself from it at that point. And i have come to experience that once i convince my mind, detachment comes very easy to me.

So here it goes, my life philosophy, i ended up mentioning fully here for the first time in my life. I find most people either dont understand or feel uncomfortable when I start explaining.

[mikeherr]

I’m an INFJ and I relate so much to this. I am a very nihilistic person in the sense that I don’t expect goodness from humanity and this reality and yet like you said just witnessing the small random acts of kindness sometimes bring me to tears because it’s just enough hope. I don’t have many friends, especially those that actually understand me but I know I am always understood by my INTJ friends. Thank you, this made my day. 🖤🖤

[bekkifromwisconsin]

Fun Fact: as a Senior in HS I did a presentation on how much it costs to die. My teacher said it was morbid. I said that it's just reality. Didn't take the MBTI til 28yrs later, but a fun coincidence.

[priskasama]

Only the vision of my own ideal future drives me. This morning again I just wanted to let go and live somewhere in the mountains, but my vision always brings me back, saying I'm not doing this only for myself but for everyone who want a change too. If at least I could help or inspire one person, then I would consider I contributed in making this world better.
Death is a motivator, truly. A friend, repeating me "girl, I'll be coming for you, you better do what you gotta do, don't waste your time, do stuffs you love make that vision a reality, help people and for godsake have fun along the way. There's life for your avatar and then me for your soul".

Tks John for this video, truly, thanks for sharing all of this with us. So much depth love it!

[epyonalpha]

I'm happy you brought up this topic because it is one that I think, as an INTJ, we can often feel isolated in ruminating on because of the "taboo" nature of the subject of death. As someone who has always been able to kind of casually talk about the subject with ease, I know a lot of people get uneasy because it reminds them of their own mortality, where as I'm simply looking at it as something that WILL happen at some point in time.

For me personally, my reality can get pretty grim if I let it, which is why I make it a habit to NOT engage with dumpster fires like Twitter (X) or doom scrolling, because I know that is just a negative reinforcement of things my Ni is already well aware of, and mama-Te has prepared me to understand and except. Which is why for me, I also do not fear death. I see it as an inevitable point where if I want to accomplish something, I have until that final moment to do so. And there's also a sort of cold comfort in knowing that if things really feel like they are that bad, there WILL eventually be an end to it.

What keeps me going though are the people that I've let into my tribe. Both family that is from genes or adopted through experience and life all become people who I want to do my best to support for as long as I am able.

The complexities of balancing the "universal balance" are the things that absolutely make us Optimistic Nihilists. While I may be able to see a lot of behaviors and predict a lot of disgusting ways that people can act, I can also appreciate when people step up to do the right thing, simply because it was the right thing. I remember when the pandemic first hit, and there was a mad dash for TP, where everyone else was just shocked and surprised by some of the greed people engaged with, I was simply disappointed that it felt like once again, I was right for the reason I didn't want to be. Then I remember I witnessed someone who was obviously in need of some help at the store and a random person just stopped and said, "Oh I happened to get the last two here, but I heard from my friend they also secured some, so we don't need all of this, " and offered one of those last precious packs to someone else. It was a reminder that life is a messy spectrum, and you can only know individuals by witnessing them and sometimes engaging them to understand their why's behind things.

It's why on one hand, I can see someone obsessed with more and more money and think, "This person is incredibly foolish. Money is a transient concept society has trained us to put far too much importance on when you can't even do anything with it if you die, or if all of society were to collapse." Then talk to that person for some reason or other and come to find out, they're actually busting their ass to support a family member that maybe can no longer take care of themselves and have a totally different outlook now and say, "While I may not go as hard as that over money, I understand their why and I'm not gonna fault them for it because I would definitely do everything in my power to provide for a family member in that situation."

[motardktm]

I love your channel. You make sense to me. The world is grim. Life sucks a lot of the time, but what are you gonna do? It's the people that I care about and that care about me that keep me moving forward. The future is what you work towards making it

[emh]

45yo, ENTJ, London - Sometimes it gets very grim and dark, but over the years I've learned to keep my feelings in a cage so they don't bite and don't make me vulnerable. What helped was figuring out my why's so that I could bear any how. Why?
- so that I don’t give up, even if life is unfair, unpredictable, difficult and sometimes beautiful
-so that I try my best to enjoy the journey ( through discipline and good mental health)
- so that I'm a supportive rock and an example of courage for people I care about.

[thesulechan]

hi jon, you posted this right after i had an absolute fi breakdown :c but the video is great, there's still things to be seen and experienced, it seems..

[ColorfulMixx]

1:26 (Disclaimer:- Not an INTJ so you might find it idk— wierd? ) If by hope you mean what is it that keeps me going despite of knowing that everything is going to end— its curiosity or the very disability to belive that we are created by chance and have no meaning— i live to know the very essence of living and also to know if spiritual talks are just talks.... but if you ask what keeps me going in my grimest times— i think its my natural tendency of believing that everything ends well.. you may call it blind optimism... sometimes it is hard to be optimistic and everything seems to break (tbh it's me myself, my incompetency or insignificance that hits me hard and not the external world) — in such cases of break down, it's "anything" serene, "anything" that brings me back to my path... Its like I create hope rather than finding it— create it in the world outside.... pretty much like in Dust Of Snow— it’s so me that it horrifies me...❤

[jocelynleung]

As an Fi-dom, it's Te that gives me hope by connecting me with the world. Left to my own devices, I'd drown in my feelings (Fi), unfinished projects (Ne), endless memories (Si).

Then I realize that the "robotic heartless machine" of Te is the key to translating all my poetic imagination into reality. I'm not as incompetent as I think I am if I literally see my goals materialize in front of my eyes, through my own efforts.

[jeffrey-]

The cliché "get the most out of your day" is that little bit of hope and an approach for feeling content on the actions of the day or the further processing of thoughts. As long as there is a notion of progression, that's the point of coping with "Does it matter in the grand scheme of things?". Taking steps back or an unproductive day have resulted in discontent. A graph goes up and down, like the stock market. A downward trend is merely an opportunity to start investing more, so the value may increase again.

[solimandriyan]

I agree with your statement, everything fundamentally is paradoxical.

[danaabbott]

Knowledge keeps me hopeful and going forward!