FIRST TAKE | Stephen A. Smith & Dan Orlovsky heated debate on NFL MVP: Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen?

FIRST TAKE | Stephen A. Smith & Dan Orlovsky heated debate on NFL MVP: Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen?

[blvd]

Since they both won their division and neither are the #1 seed, the deciding factors are Lamar's historic stats and the fact that he and the Ravens already DOGWALKED Allen and the Bills this year.

[heribertogarza]

Josh allen has beat both number one seeds while the entire nfl community outside of Buffalo had them regressing. Its not all about stats. The bills have a higher seed than the ravens with less probowlers.

[souleater]

Ravens didnt even have a defense and lost four defensive coaches this season. People say he didnt carry, he carried the whole defensive phase.

[michaelmason]

4000 pass yards and 900 rushing yards is insane. Not to mention he has more touchdowns and less turnovers. What am I missing here?

[MissFloofs]

“He got Zay Flowers to the Pro Bowl” is a wild statement.

[gamallmiller]

They refuse to talk about the 9-30 game. the game josh had 0tds 2ints and still won. Josh played 6 above 500 teams (3-3) lamar played 12 (9-3) head to head 35-10 lamar .this isn't close what is the the media's motive for this nonsense. The finishing touches go look at the stats on the KC game with both players and tell me what you see.

[KwanVoyi]

Dan says we shouldn’t use stats and then proceeds to use stats to prop up Josh Allen’s case.

[TiandraGriffin-ludl]

Everybody in the media said the jets or Miami would win that division… that’s almost unforgivable 😂

[Cartrmpir]

I dont get how zay being a pro bowler works against Lamar when lamar passes to him. He is a probowler because of lamars arm

[joncaples]

Why are they not mentioning the head to head when Lamar beat Allen 35-10 and Allen got benched in the 4th

[wealthyfuture]

lamar has the same
“no one has ever done this” stats

[kfree]

The media wants Josh to win it 😂 it’s obvious

[AlejandroDelgadillo-zvyj]

Brady had 4500 yards and 43 tds and still they gave it to Rodgers, i'm with Allen

[wizem]

look at Dan getting emotional..if you don't give it to Josh it's cuz you don't want to? how about the most deserving should win.. he almost sound like Biden saying if you don't vote for him you ain't black..

[cizia]

No adverbs were hurt in the making of this show...

[TheBennyVan]

The race baiting is wild. Last 4 of 6 MVPs are black guys. Acting like race is contributing to this debate is nuts.

[BuffaloBarber]

Josh Allen sat out 11 quarters of football. Almost 3 games worth. Bc he killed teams. The stats would be almost identical if that didn’t happen.

[Extra_nose_fragrances]

WhT people want Allen to win Blck people want Lamar .Its sad to say because both are having all time great seasons.I love both players

[IvyDLicious]

The only media members who wouldn’t vote Josh Allen MVP are the ones still mad that they got his draft evaluation horribly wrong and just can’t admit it.

[Etz]

Bills have a horrible defense. They might not have given up the most pts but they never get a quick stop. Teams usually drive it down the field every possession for 5-7 minutes (bend but don’t break philosophy)Would love to see Allen have the ball as often as Lamar and mahomes. Plus Allen has sat on many 4th quarters and the entire last game.