What if Josephus Knew Marcion's Gospel?: The Road to Emmaus and the Testimonium Flavianum

What if this explains the Testimonium Flavianum all along.

[TheDanEdwards]

I have yet to rule out that the entire TF may be a Christian interpolation, from Eusebius or later. It is unfortunate that the surviving copies of Josephus are so late.

[henryescudero]

Has anyone read "Gospel" by Wilton Barnhardt? Its a fantastic history of early Christianity mystery novel. It was written in the early 90s and covers this topic in detail. I highly recommend it.

[peterhook]

Jacob this could be groundbreaking..is groundbreaking. Excellent work my friend!

[JayWest]

If we know Josephus’ paraphrasing style, why can’t it be imagined that early Christian scholars knew of this technique as well and used it in their interpolation, to mimic the style of Josephus??

[MrOliver]

Interesting hypnosis! I have donated. Love the content

[TheDanEdwards]

Have fun in San Diego. Why the SBL holds thing thing just a couple of days before Thanksgiving I do not know, but it does mean that air travel will be a mess.

[vocesanticae]

What is your source for the text of Marcion's Gospel? It doesn't correspond to any scholarly reconstruction of which I'm aware.

[hectorlarios]

About music samples, I still get comments like "live and let die" is such a good Guns N' Roses song!

[davidaaronhill]

IIRC, Justin refers to Markion as an old man in Justin's time, and some of the heresiologists in their "un-apostolic succession" lists of heretics put him quite early.

[tookie]

My money is on Josephus knew some gospel. He knew of John the Baptist and Jesus through the gospel. Whatever form that was in who knows

[brianpetruska]

@History-Valley The problem is that gMarcion is unlikely to have the section that refers to Prophets and the Law foretelling Jesus' suffering. BeDuhn doesn't have that part, and it would be highly uncharacteristic for it to be there in gMarcion at all. The better, simpler solution to the parallels b/n Luke and Josephus is that Luke copied Josephus. gMarcion could strengthen this conclusion if gMarcion's Emmaus story lacks any of the key parallels with T.F. That would support Luke having added it, having lifted it from Josephus.

[Kornheiser]

Or you can just apply Occums razor and accept that this entire section, or at least a majority was added later to Josephus' TF writings.

[asozial]

does the Evangalion include the baptism of jesus?

[The_Gypsy_Prince-yv]

So the fact that Josephus says "he was the christ" We just leave out of the discussion.
"He appeared to them alive on the third day" we will just say, well Josepus didn't understand what Luke meant.
Because a couple of scholars claim that Marcion wrote first, we will just say Josepus got it from Marcion.
A very farfetched unlike theory.