The Original Bad Boy EV - My Tesla Model S P85D Review

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Today I finally drive the car that really made Tesla - the mighty Model S. Not just any, but the P85 D, the car that introduced the world to "Insane" performance!

But, there is a problem with Teslas.....

#Tesla #EV

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Typically, just after filming - Tesla released an update for the car which finally included waypoints. However, this news came to me a bit too late!

JayEmmOnCars
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“Reasonably unremarkable saloon-hatch cross-type-thing” I think Elon will be in touch to use that phrase in their marketing 😂

HighPeakAutos
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I'd like to applaud you, James, on the way you're comfortable with your body image and can shrug off the trolls. Oh, and your dedication to supporting the baking industry in these uncertain times. ;)

OneFatStatue
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I think this is the only honest Tesla review I’ve ever seen over the years. You presented the marmite arguments so simply with actual details and research about the company through the years. Very refreshing and shows up the top gear(both new and old) anti-electric push as well as the toxic Tesla fanboys.

mhjl
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12:35 I consider myself a tech-savvy person as I've been into computers since the mid 80's. I've also been into cars since about the same time. With that said, I absolutely hate touch controls in cars. I think they are detrimental to road safety and there should be legislation in place to make sure certain things have physical buttons/knobs, ie. windscreen wipers, heating and cooling controls etc.

vibingwithvinyl
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Shoddy build quality persists: panel fit, paint quality, door handles, tail lights. The biggest issue is the Apple-like aggressive stance against third party repair.

SmashGhost
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The emissions you don’t get from the back of the car are generally outweighed by the emissions coming from the front of the owners.

C.Fecteau-AU-MJ
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Say what you like about Tesla, whether they're amazing or leave a lot to desire, we can all agree Tesla fanboys are the worst people in the car world.

TheShinyShow
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I hate Tesla for being anti right to repair and unless they change their attitude towards it, they'll still be the next Apple and John Deere... I believe Louis Rossman even mentioned this issue in one of his RTR videos.

MultiDawidzio
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As the owner of a P85D for the last 4.5 years I have to say this was one of the most fair and accurate reports on the car that I have seen.

I am a performance driver with a lot of track experience and a history a very fast cars, the last of which was an E39 supercharged (after market) M5, and, with that in mind, the only thing I take exception to is how you describe the way the car performs on the twisty bits. I have done Targa Tasmania in an E36 M3R (10th outright), which was staggeringly good in the handling department, and, after driving my P85D through some very challenging twisty roads, I was thoroughly impressed and exhilarated with the performance.

I am 67 years old and have never owned a new car that I was excited to drive after the first 6 months or so. Sure, I still had some exhilarating times in them, but they eventually just became the daily driver. I can honestly say that I still get a buzz EVERY time I drive the P85D out of the garage and onto the street, it is simply that good.


There are many things that Tesla can improve, but keep in mind that the company is still only around 13 years old and they will continue to improve as the years go by.

The only other thing you failed to mention was the over the air updates, which have improved the car significantly over the 4.5 years I have owned it, including the way points update you mention at the top of the comments. There have been heaps of incremental improvements, the first of which for me was the introduction of easy entry for improved entry and exiting of the vehicle. I am also a little fond of cake and this was very appreciated as it was not there when I purchased the car. How many other cars actually improve with age?

I forgot to mention that I have ordered a new PLAID but it will not be available in Australia until near the end of 2022.

MRBMW
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Tried the model 3. I need a few basic buttons. It felt half finished so I order the Ionic 5. Much nicer inside.
Btw, Matt, they may have released all their copyrights, but if you buy a fully ‘loaded’ Tesla second hand, Tesla remove all the extras when you register the car. You never own their software when you buy the car second hand. You have to pay for the upgrades yourself. It’s legal but IMO a horrible tactic. How much money does Musk need? Greed. If you buy an optioned Audi, you keep the options. A bloke from Audi doesn’t come round your house and delete the sat nav and unscrew the reversing camera. And if you try to keep your upgrades against Tesla’s will, they send an over the air update stopping you charging your car. The fact is, even when you buy a Tesla, you don’t really own it. They do.

gbjwal
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My S did the same thing with that door rubber. Sometimes if I got out at the wrong angle and brushed it the wrong way it would dislodge it and prevent the door from closing. Of course my friends found this hilarious. Me not so much on a car which cost £88k.

siraff
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The worst thing about Tesla drivers, collectively, is they aren't car people....and there you have it✅️

klasseact
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I've an 8-year old Renault Twizy (adore it!) and the battery has barely degraded at all... they last really well!

iandavidson
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I consider tesla drivers to be the BMW drivers of the electric car world.

bundy
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The reason for not being able to use the "E" was in fact that Ford objected to them using it.

themodernmodernist
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Great review, unbiased summary. Yes, Tesla fanboys can be crazy! A note of caution: not all Teslas with free supercharging have it transferred to new owners.

andrewnorris
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Fair review in my opinion, having driven quite a few myself the biggest issue I had with Teslas is they just feel like white "domestic" goods to me, no soul or character, serves a purpose like the most basic ikea furniture. Not the only modern cars to suffer with this though.

slipstream
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Good review, and as a Model 3 owner, I would have had no issue hearing more complaints. Tesla's are faulted, my car struggles to hold corners as well as my friend's '08 C300 when we head out for a weekend drive. Plus, it loses range extremely quickly when being romped on. Still, all Tesla's are quiet, comfortable cars with lots of technology. Another note, if you can afford to go for a new S, the long range variant is nearly identical through the quarter mile as the old P85D and P90D. For most people, saving that 60k over the Plaid and getting that kind of performance is worth it. Especially considering the substantial interior upgrades and fit/finish upgrades over the older ones.

marshallhilfman
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Talk to someone about how your smartphone battery life isn't as good as it used to be one or two years later. Everybody will say, yes, that's what old batteries do. Talk to an EV owner about that: No no, it cannot happen, in ten years it will have the same range and do another 10 years. Why don't they realize that both are Li-Ion batteries, of the same chemical kind and same technology.

alexandrecouture