Russian Pilots Denied Entry to Canada | ATC vs Pilots

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As a result of what is going on in Ukraine, Russian pilots were made to stay out of Canada's airspace, some of the pilots seemed surprised

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0:00 - Intro
01:38 - Eviction 1
09:50 - Eviction 2
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this brings to mind a story i heard about a pilot flying into berlin, and the atc was getting a bit flustered at the pilot and sarcastically asked, "sir - havent you ever flown in to berlin before?!?!?" and the pilot responded, "yes, but that last time i was flying a bomber." it was shortly after ww2.

pezpengy
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As a dispatcher for Kalitta Air, this has happened to me several times, including times when we had the proper permits and then they were cancelled at the last minute. China seems to be the ones that did this to us. Life as a dispatcher can be a lot of fun, like the time an aircraft I was dispatching departed from ORD and one of the engines decided it didn't want to be with the aircraft any longer and dropped into Lake Michigan. Thank you for making these videos.

aaronharvey
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ATC here, I worked in Gander for 11 years, great video and explanation. I work in Moncton now for the last 17 years. This bring back memories of Gander, giving oceanic clearances and knowing how busy we would be each day based on where the tracks were.

kenarsenault
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states can (or used to) have restrictions. When I lived in Wichita, Kansas (1970's-1980's), one flight when we were flying into Kansas the pilot came on and said that it was time to lock up the alcohol (Kansas was a dry state and no alcohol was allowed). He also made a comment about re-entering the 19th century

mikeneely
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I remember listening to a situation where the Polish ATC told the pilots of one airline they weren't allowed to enter Polish airspace - the reason being, the airline was behind with paying the fee so Poland wouldn't allow them use its airspace until they were up to date with payments. They were forced to turn around

rilmar
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I was a flight dispatcher for CALAC's Executive Flight Ops for a couple of years and boots on the ground is very accurate description lol. Once in a while was a flight attendant/or engineer on the G3. Never a boring second!

cbufffly
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Thanks for mentioning the dispatchers, and especially thanks for mentioning we have multiple flights at any given time, and may need the crew to give us a heads up of their current situation. The hardest part of this job is task prioritization when all sorts of things are going on at the same time for multiple flights. No matter how busy I may be, an incoming message from an airborne flight will always get my immediate attention.

alanpastreck
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Thanks for recognizing Dispatchers on this Video. Unsung hero's in the back ground - I'm a retired dispatcher from a major airline

jeffdo
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Hello, I have 32 years as a commercial pilot. A few years as a training captain L1011 and line captain the last 16 years for Easyjet ORY. I really enjoy your YT. I remember the old captains exchanging overfly permits numbers as it was collection cards. One could say: I fly to India tomorrow do you have a number. One captain or FE would give him a overflight number from his notebook in exchange for another permit. It took some times for the ATC to check the numbers and if it was a used one they called back and the captain did say; sorry my mistake and gave them another. Before the ATC have had a chance to verify we left their airspace. It worked for years and we save a great amount of fuel. until they started to visually ident the aircraft with military fighters.

Guranmaster
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I think what they were actually reffering to the fact that PORTI is inside Ganders Domestic Airspace. So I think they were concerned that they could violate NOTAM R when they choose PORTI as their entry point. I could be wrong though.

somebuddy
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Dang! I didn’t know that there was SO much involved with flying commercial aircraft! I always learn so much from your channel, thanks so much!

comcastjohn
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Wow I've learnt SO much in 16 minutes. Thanks Kelsey. Regards from the UK 🇬🇧

Brooke
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Really interesting Kelsey! You’re such a great teacher. So many things we non-pilots wouldn’t even be thinking about when just always doing the passenger thing.

jxyjayjxy
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Last year following the interception and forced landing of the Ryanair flight in Belarus I remember seeing in flightradar24 a Belavia flight doing circles in the air near the Polish border. Turns out they were notified there and then that Europe closed its airspace for all Belarusian flights as a response for that act of piracy. The flight eventually had to land back in Minsk.

ironlionzion
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What a detailed & excellent explanation of this situation. We forget just how much information is flooding the airwaves with protocols etc. Much appreciated Kelsey 👍

alabama
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As a Canadian, I am wondering after watching this video why there was no 24 hours notice before the travel ban took effect. It would prevent a headache for pilots…

YanBrassard
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Keeping the whole turmoil into account, it's comforting to see how professional this has been managed here. Yes, they are trained for it, but still great how level headed everyone was.

TarikDaniel
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Flying with my late Dad who flew a two-seater Vans Aircraft RV6 turboprop kit plane he built (he was an aerospace engineer with Spar Aerospace and the project manager for the Canadarm), I would hear the chatter he had with ATC in Montreal on a headset I wore. He never explained all the abbreviations and nomenclature so your explanations here really open my eyes err... ears to all the nuances between pilots and ATC.
Enjoy your channel - keep up the great work!
Cheers and thanks!
Frederic in Montréal :-)

frederichore
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This is so fascinating. I have nothing to with airplanes or the airline industry but like many people I find it utterly captivating. And this video was one of the best!

sewfdvr
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It's always a good day when Kelsey uploads

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