Game Streaming with OBS: Are Nvidia RTX Cards Better? What Settings Are Best to Use?

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[_your_mother_]

I don't think this is a good video for streaming advice, because:

1: While Twitch recommends up to "6mbps", you can still stream at far higher bitrates and it will work. While watching a stream if you click on "show video stats", under the Advanced setting, you'll see this higher bitrate is actually working. Loads of streamers do this and ignore the Twitch recommendation. I've used 10 - 11mbps for well over a year and Twitch hasn't done anything to my account so far.
2: OBS is shit for AMD. ReLive is a better option that doesn't seem to have any dropped frames. Shadowplay is also fine for Nvidia when using higher bitrates.

So if you're a Twitch streamer you're best option is to NOT do what this video is saying/testing/whatever and instead simply stream with higher bitrates using ReLive/Shadowplay. You'll get the best quality, the least impact on performance (generally), and no dropped frames.

[gamz]

Not on topic, but I've built that Lego excavator thing in the background two years ago in hs engineering while we had a lot of downtime lol.

[bigbuckoramma]

Sadly, this video is going to spawn another round of "I need an XXXX to stream, because Hardware Unboxed (or other TechTuber) said I do!"

So many idiots on Twitch, it's not even funny. "I need an 8700k, because that's what Shroud uses!" Builds PC with an H mother board, because they blew all their budget on the K series part. Or uses 2400 CL18 RAM because they can't afford anything faster. Or doesn't budget a CPU cooler because "I'm not gonna overclock anyway, it's too dangerous." And many other stupid choices.

And that says nothing for the fact that a VAST majority of people don't even stream at 6000. A majority of them stream at 3000-3500 because they are trying to stream of their parents garbage tier "I check the e-mails on my iPads" internet. So even if they were GPU encoding, you could never tell anyway, because so few actually stream at 6000.

Now you've gone and said "just get a streaming encoder PC " FML, now a bunch of people are going to assume they need that. Before they get a decent webcam, before they get a decent mic, before they even learn how to put on a mildly entertaining stream...nope, "I need a top end streaming PC, mate!"

The sad truth is, anything over GPU encoding, or x264 Faster, is complete overkill for 95% of the streamers out there.

[gensem]

You need the "GPU" optimized OBS Studio to get better quality with Turing. As far i know its still unreleased.

[KesGaming]

This right here is why I stream on YouTube. Without the ridiculous 6000 KBPS bitrate limit, I can stream with NVENC at 12, 200 KBPS and the quality looks just fine.

[Syping]

Some how I don't have issues at 100% GPU usage at Vega 56 and also take Highest Quality, both H.265 and H.264 works perfectly fine.

[NightKev]

There are some other options to get better quality:performance, like 900p instead of 1080p and/or ~50fps instead of 60fps, hopefully a future video explores these options.

[aditrex]

i dont like streaming from same cpu even tho i have 2700x as gaming cpu i use my old x5650 4.0ghz to encode my stream at fast 720p 6k bitrate with ndi plugin way better then encoding from same pc

[Maxelius]

Streaming with 6mbits in 1080p on Twitch absolutely worthless scenario. Unless you have a 2nd PC for Streaming with 10-12 Cores CPU for SLOW preset in OBS. Otherwise look at a 900p! Even a single R7 1700 provides a good picture on 6mbits, 900p with FASTER OBS preset. Which obviosly make less struggle in game perfomance.

Turing NVENC update also worthless. WOW! They now tied with VERYFAST preset in OBS! WHAT AN ACHIVEMENT! God dammit, noone streams in veryfast 6 mbits 1080p... But i also want some other device in CPU, which can encode at quality with Slow x264 preset and much cheaper than TR4 2nd PC... Dreams... Ah dreams...

And yes, english not my first language.

[Honeypot-xs]

This video is stupid! you used standard OBS Studio for AMD, that has almost almost zero native AMD support. Obviously it isn’t probably using AMD because AMD GPUs multiple have built in encoders in silicon that have one purpose that it to encode video and OBS was choking out on Vega which has 4 encoder engines

[uhu]

What about Intel Quicksync?
When I compared it to NVENC, it gave me much better results in some situations.
HOWEVER: It also seemed to have higher bitrate peaks at some occasions. Both were set to constant 3500kbps in OBS Studio.


Would really like to see some more comparisons (including Quicksync) at some lower bitrates.
6000kbps are sometimes too much for a lot of viewers (and as small streamer, you don't get the quality options on twitch).

[AlfaPro]

Question: Who scrutinise every stream frame by frame? Turing NVENC vs CPU Fast comparison, it's hard to tell (if stuttering wasn't an issue), unless you put it up.

[Kirinketsu_]

Please redo this test with the OBS NVENC "New" I have seen other videos show the NVENC "New" is now better than x264 Fast and even better than x264 medium at lower bitrate, but I would like a source I know I can trust seeing how some of these other videos I watched somehow had all of their recording of the same gameplay, not sure how this would work without all of the test being done on 2nd PC's when the whole point of NVENC is the need to not have a 2nd streaming PC.

I was watching a stream of a streamer who had to stream on his "Gaming" PC because his new "Streaming" PC had an issue, he was quite mad after the RTX 2080Ti using OBS NVENC "New" looked better than his $2, 500 Streaming PC.

[boingkster]

Better? Maybe. Settings? If they can't handle 'Max' then they're definitely not worth the asking price. 60fps / 1080p / 100% scaling at the very minimum.

[SaturnusDK]

So both AMD parts are compared with Nvidia and Intel parts each double the price of the AMD part it's compared to?

[RagnarokLoW]

I think you're missing something to stream with AMD GPU using OBS. I used to stream using it and never had issues after I installed the proper plugin.

[dencoby]

What about QuickSync? Also, ive not seen my Vega 64 behave this way. I was actually testing before this

[carbonsx]

4:27 Craps its whats? :D I am little surprised that you didn't look at GPU first party tools. Especially if you're just going to kick AMD off the bus because of OBS integration when ReLive is an option.

[ShaoZapomnit]

Very misleading and the title is rather disappointing.

Just put OBS in it so that people know it's just OBS and not everything. Because now it smells like everyone is gonna bash Vega at being unreliable while it isn't, it works just as fine if not better as it was shown in HardOCP Vega Vs Pascal which isn't surprising due to how hard Nvidia cheaps out on Memory Bandwidth. Vega is capable of doing 4k60 up to 100mpbs locally so it's quite misleading that you go as far as just making conclusions that it can't do 1080p60 at 6mbps, that's just plain not true. Who ever decides to actually stream should learn about more than just using presets altogether to actually have good results with h264/5 encoding, even if x264 remains the best. It's not hard to figure out.

While on the topic, still haven't heard any mentions about CPU affinity which is one of the best ways to use multicore CPUs on x264, besides streaming 1080p60 on Twitch is a terrible thing with any games that have fast paced action, not recommended, 720p60 at 6mbps is the way to go for both quality and performance.

My personal opinion is that x264 with dedicated CPU cores pulling frames from the GPU will always be the superior option anyway in terms of performance and bandwidth. It strikes balance in between having to get another system, or buy dedicated capture card. Though Turing might be better than Pascal because it has more bandwidth with GDDR6, I'm not ready to accept from your conclusion that it's any better than Vega, the video feels rushed and ignorant from my encoding/streamer experience.

[allansh]

no test for 4K and 8K encoding? Really? I am curious whether it is possible to record 8K60P with two turing cards.