P12S Phase 1 Guide - Pandaemonium Anabaseios Twelfth Circle Savage (Athena)

This is a guide to the fight P12S Phase 1 (Athena) in the game Final Fantasy XIV. All strats in this video are early strats and are likely to be improved over time. I've tried my best to align my guide with what I have seen most commonly in PF, but apologies if this guide shows mechanics being resolved differently than your preference.

00:00 Introduction and Positions
00:59 Trinity of Souls Explained
02:27 Light/Dark Debuffs Explained
03:39 Paradeigma 1
04:42 Paradeigma 1 (Tank invuln/Lazy Lazers)
05:25 Paradeigma 2
07:08 Glaukopis (Tankbuster)
07:38 Superchain Theory I
11:23 Apodialogos/Peridialogos
11:58 Paradeigma 3
16:54 Limit Cut
20:23 Superchain Theory IIA
23:05 Superchain Theory IIB
24:44 Enrage
25:10 Special Thanks! (and cat)

[HectorHectorson]

Sorry that this has ended up a long one! I felt a few of the more complicated mechanics really benefited from a more in-depth breakdown.

If you're coming to this guide from PF already knowing the fight, here's a rough breakdown of what I show
Paradeigma 1: I show both standard and tank invuln strat
Paradeigma 2: Player relative, DPS NW->CCW, TH N->CW
Paradeigma 3: + north, X south, H1>MT>OT>H2 priority for towers, crossed tether soaks middle tower
LC: I show both 2&4 moving back to where the boss was and (briefly) 2&4 starting middle of the adjacent wall.
Superchain IIA: I show both near and far spots for the pair nearest to middle

As always, talk to your party in PF to clarify strats before pulling.

Good luck going for the kill!

[Edzter]

"The supports in the towers need to use their eyes"

That's it, it's over, PF in shambles

[holierthanu]

17:05 ‘it’s a Limit Cut’

Feels like the tagline of this tier lmfao

[AHuskeyGinger]

One thing to mention that really wasnt touched on here: The Bait lasers during limit cut will vary in speed, this is due to the lasers and cleaves being in two sets of: 2 beams 2 Cleaves. This can lead to a FAST or SLOW variation for those baits as the order could be: cleave/cleave/beam/beam then beam/beam/cleave/cleave (fast baits for 1/3) or beam/beam/cleave/cleave then cleave/cleave/beam/beam (slow baits for 1/3). All this to say 1/3 has to be quick when it comes to their turn to bait as it could come very quickly after they have solved their dashes. Also it is also good practice that if you are waiting to bait try to keep rotating away from the pair coming towards you with their puddles or you could end up clipping them with your lasers.

[Hrring]

The order of the adds performing beams and mini pbAOEs during Limit Cut is variable. However, you can actually see the order ahead of time. When Athena initially summons the adds and does the big raidwide to transition into Limit Cut, the adds are sitting in a ring around her. Intercardinal adds correspond to the beams. Cardinal adds correspond to the mini pbAOEs. They leave the field one at a time, and that tells you the order they're going to perform in. If you see intercards leaving one after another, those beams will come quickly. If you see intercards and cardinals alternating, then it'll be a more relaxed pace.

[Fomortiis]

One way to memorize positions for SC Theory 1 is to look at the graphic of your debuff.
If your laser appears to be aimed left (as if it was coming from the boss) then you stand left, if it appears to be aimed right then stand right.
Likewise for the other 6 players, if the person in your debuff is standing right then you stand right. Same with the tower in the debuff.

[walwal]

watching this as someone who just got into hard content... i feel like losing confidence, this shit looks so detailed i feel like im gonna grief my static messing up one move 💀

[slideout]

Haven’t even cleared p9s yet but we up 🎉

[dojelnotmyrealname]

Those of us who played Kerbal Space Program will know Peri as nearest and Apo as Furthest.

[CyclopsDragon]

One important note for Superchain Theory IIA that a lot of people get wrong: the circle AoE in the middle after the donut actually goes off at the same time as the third Trinity cleave, rather than with the final baits. Because of that, it's extremely important that you get out of middle as quickly as possible after the donut (which is why most people will sprint there), but it also means that M1 and M2 can adjust back towards middle right before the baits go out.

As well, it helps to remember that the Trinity during SCIIA is always bottom to top.

[Gonglor]

For the right/left side spreads during SC1, an even simpler way to know where you go is one Nukemaru mentions in his guide.
Dark Debuff has the guy on the right side of the icon so you go right.
Dark tower debuff has the tower on the right side of the icon, so you go right.
Dark laser debuff has it pointing to the left side so you go left.
Same way for light but they're all on the opposite side.

[loticee]

Something I think should have been mentioned about para 3: the assignment of the tower debuff element is random and will not always be dark, so dps (and the tower players) need to check their debuffs as well as which tethers are on their platform, ive seen people new to the mechanic assume its always dark towers

[kephalai]

finally, my static will be able to clear p12s phase 1 next week

[MajorReynolds]

question: about Superchain Theory 1, during the second donut/colored lazers, is it strictly necessary for the players to be in a line? or can they just stack together as impromptu light parties?

[Faythe]

Thank you again Hector! You're the best! I used your guide for p11s to get a clear :)

[zealous]

Question, does Paradeigma 3 always occur in fixed pattern? As in TH always gets the turret and laser debuff and DPS are always tethered?

[PaperSynth]

There's 6 relative patterns for the Adds in limit cut as the system picks two from these variables; bbcc, bcbc, bccb, cbbc, cbcb, ccbb. Meaning it's most likely that you will come across at least TWO beam sets going off consecutively, with the least likely pattern being the full consecutive pattern as that requires ccbbbbcc. So just watch the adds and note which beam sets are going off fast.

[erisism]

during para3, it's important the supports know that you can get ANY of the debuffs; towers, cross, or x can go on either healers or tanks, it's not set to healers getting the cross or x and tanks getting the tower drops.

[qeqsi]

I was gonna give it a try untill I heard thats phase 1 welcome to phase 2

[hakki]

the lasers during LC are not always during first dash, the order is random, the order is defined by the adds which appear in the intercardinal spots once lc starts the AoE hit. The order how the fly off is the order of the add mechanic Aoe/laser. add with a yellow puddle below him is laser. but it still doesnt matter because the ones baiting the lasers are always the same partner.

it can be e.g. 1 2 7 8 or 1 3 5 7 etc. its not always the same oder gl on clear