What Happened to Cloudsdale? MLP G5

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Where is Cloudsdale in MLP G5? What could have happened to this magnificent city between the Events of My Little Pony Friendship is Magic and A New Generation? Today we explore just that!

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The video topic is on My Little Pony: Friendship Is magic (AKA MLP FIM) and My Little Pony A New Generation. We get an idea as to how characters such as Sunny Starscout Izzy Moonbow Hitch Trailblazer Zipp Storm and Pipp Pedals might find Cloudsdale. We look at the events between MLP G4 And MLP G5.
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It was a really good theory, unfortunately it was confirmed zephit heights isn't canterlot as they will visit a ghost town canterlot in the comics

paolopol
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If they renamed it Zephyr Heights because Zephyr Breeze is remembered as a legendary Pegasus hero?

That would be totally hilarious.

dorrin
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It would be very interesting to see a war between canterlot and cloudsdale,
The weather factory alone could cause a lot of damage to canterlot
Imagine the entire city invading
Also the pegasus were always been known for being warrior and canterlot doesn't have any defense except the location of the city and some powerful unicorns, so the smartest option to them is surrender

jonastrindade
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the best theory made until today is that g4 is only a book made by sunny's father to teach her that friendship beteen the 3 races is possible, and it happened in the past (but not with the mane 6).

this would explain why only sunny and her father know about the mane 6

neey
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The weather being automated in Equestrian isn't entirely new. We've seen the frozen area around the Crystal Empire's weather be uncontrollable even with two Alicorns fighting it off, and the Everfree Forest is stated to have it's own ecosystem and weather that doesn't rely on the ponies' manipulations. What do these two areas have in common? There are no ponies who live there and have the abilities to control the weather. Zecora, being a zebra, has no wings, and the crystal ponies seem to mainly be earth ponies with Hope and the old princess from the comics as well as Cadence's family and later Sunburst being the only exceptions as far as residents with wings and horns go.

My theory for the weather is that when the magic was locked away after the tribes fought, the ecosystems of Equestria adapted and became self sufficient. We don't know exactly how long the time jump between the generations is, but if it's enough time that current generations forgot about Twilight and her friends, as well as the harmony the ponies had before, then it's definitely possible for enough time to pass for that to happen.

kikig
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So Cloudsdale is like the pegasus Death Star. Though it's also where all their children live, so maybe bringing it to the battlefield against the quintessential ranged class is not the best idea.
In any case, it seems that the "ZH is Canterlot" idea was scrapped. The movie crew thought about it, but they didn't dare confirm it. They didn't deny it either, though. The location on the map and the overall topography don't match very well, but who knows, maybe the showrunners will decide to bring this idea back anyway.
As for Cloudsdale, I like the idea that the clouds surrounding ZH are what's left of it, but they are most likely an aesthetic detail with no deeper meaning to the story, just like Pipp's wings and the random flying critters.
There's an old version of the script where the pegasi had a weather machine that was powered by the crystal, and the unicorns and earth ponies also used their crystals as energy sources. But in the actual movie, they really wanted to push the idea that there was no magic left at all. Then again, apparently they didn't count the Sun, the Moon and the cutie marks as magic, so who know what else doesn't count.

yondaime
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If unicorns have magic & pegasi have weather as weapons, then the earth ponies will have the technology to build scary war machines. (Just look at Sprout's mech)

somerandomdude
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I just assumed that because of the loss of magic the Pegasi lost their unique ability to fly up to Cloudsdale or even stand on it. I bet it's still there but with no Pegasi guiding it anymore it was just left abandoned and floated away to become a fairytale lost sky city.

SilverTheTrinity
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What happens if a pegasus dump toxic waste into a cloud? Will it make an acid rain?

somerandomdude
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Wifi has finally come back up, and the video is here!

Star_Strike
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God, never thought about it this way but you're right !! I hope they make used of this fact even though this is unlikely.

mohdghazali
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Wow. I love the worldbuilding of G-4 myself; I sure hope they give us some nice stuff in G-5 as well!

longWriter
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*theory one:*
chances are, Cloudsdale evaporated when magic disappeared because it was that magic that gave the floating city both its stability and structure, and this is especially true when you consider that Cloudsdale looked to have been made more out of magic then just clouds being clumped together.

If not, then it was likely abandoned because Pegasi:
1.) couldn't fly, so they couldn't return.
2.) probably lost their standing-on-clouds ability when they lost their flight.

*Theory Two:*
If we follow along the lore recent G5 comics gave us, it would mean that Cloudsdale had the real possibility that it was obliterated during an attack conducted by another tribe, likely Unicorns. This attack would then prompt the Pegasi to invade canterlot by using their air superiority and their control over the weather. the battle would end in victory for the Pegasi, forcing the Unicorns to Evacuate into what would be known as Bridlewood.

The now-desolate Canterlot was rebuilt by the Pegasi, then they would claim it as their own, renaming it Zephyr Heights and eventually establishing their own Monarchy.

*What did Earth ponies use to defend themselves?*
They likely fought using the brute strength that they're historically known for having, or they simply ran away from their attackers, which is what they likely did the most frequently as they would be grossly outmatched if faced with either a Pegasus or Unicorn.

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My theory is that before g5 actually started, the weather factory stopped working then the pegasi moved Cloudsdale to the mountain then positioned the clouds around the mountain then the crystals got separated which causes the ponies to lose their magic like they can't levitate stuff or fly but there is enough magic left to show cutie marks then the ponies worked together to get crystals back together then reunite pony tribes.

sunstreaker
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It seems to me that Cloudsdale became a lost city in the sky as the Pegasi lost their abilities to fly and walk on clouds.

ChipitaDraws
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It’s G5 they made G1, G2, and G3 before right and it didn’t explain the new and old characters, places, or how it suddenly became another generation so it’s normal how G4 was finished like G1, G2, and G3

ayalak
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“GIANT INDESTRUCTIBLE AIRSHIP”

Thunderhead if Thunderhead wasnt in the wrong timeline.




(Talking about the one from Project Horizons)

endarus
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I think its because they lost their magic because a pony without wings can't walk on clouds. So they lost their magic, that a Pegasus can't walk on clouds or they'll just fall off. So they moved to Zephyr Heights with the idea of The Queen which how she became a queen.

HiroTheCorgi
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If the pegasi starts out as militaristic before Equestria existed, i'd bet a dime that the Mane 5 will encounter some pegasi barbarians in the series.

somerandomdude
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Actually now we have confirmation that Zephyr height is not Canterlot :(

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