Why were there no Islamic Democracies? | History of the Middle East 1900-1914 - 11/21

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[JabzyJoe]

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[miladeskandari]

Iranian here. Just wanted to say well done man. I'm amazed of how good your research is. A video on the jungle movement in the future could be really interesting.

[Argacyan]

I think the beginning of the Algerian war for independence is illustrative for why there was scant democracy up until the era of revolutions in the region: When WW2 ended, Algerians were sent home without their promised pensions or recognition. When Algerians in the country celebrated the end of the war with mentioning of the word liberty, as France just got its liberty back, the French colonial troops opened fire into the end-of-war celebrations. Algeria would eventually win freedom, but the question of why there was no democracy is soaked in blood. During the Cold War democratic revolutions in the area were always socialist & secular - which at time of the Cold War meant both islamic theocrats & the west (TM) did anything they could to stop democracy from happening.

[muhammadfadhilnurhafizwang]

Just a friendly reminder : Iran had a democratically-elected prime minister, and then, US and UK instigated a coup against him in 1953 that strengthened the monarch's authoritarian rule

[SentMyOwnWay]

You and Hikma history have opened my mind to an entire facet of history I knew almost nothing about before. I’d love to find some reliable sources on indian and Chinese history as well.

[volvowithlazers]

honestly enjoying all your efforts and really digging in to Persian and Turkish stories- you put so much in one vid I get to go and look up the names of the folks and the events you mention, seriously comprehensive as far as I am concerned - thks for efforting

[anonnymousperson]

I've got to say it's really difficult to understand the big picture from these videos. If you asked me at the end of the video what happened during the video, I wouldn't be able to tell you.
Even so, it's an amazing amount of effort put in to these videos, thank you for them all the same.

[tommy-erhh]

Some additional info:
1912 after Italy captured Libya coast & Rhodes and Dodecanese Islands, the Turks refused to quit. They pulled their troops into SE Asia Minor is expectations of an invasion by Italy.
The Italians wanted the war to end, so they talked to their relative, the King of Montenegro. He declared war, followed by all the other Balkan Nations who were trying to grab territory before the others. The next day, the Ottoman Turks made peace with Italy.
Of course, since the bulk of the Turk army was way out of position, the Balkan Turk territories were torn apart.
But the Balkan countries did not get to keep what they gained, because Italy, England and Austro-Hungary stopped Serbia and Bulgaria from getting ports, rearranging the peace territory grab. This re-arraigning led to the 2nd Balkan wars in 1913, where Turk rejoined and reconquered some of Bulgaria. (as did Serbia, Romania and Greece also.)

BTW, in 1914 the British conquered independent Darfur Muslim sultanate, which had been officially a vassal of Ottomans. It was merged into Sudan, which is why the Sudanese attacked Darfur in the 2003-2010. Darfur during WWI rebelled 1915, but was defeated by 1917 and back in British hands.

[rursus]

Sounds like the collapse of an empire over a land that wasn't really enough fertile/taxable to keep it.

[ismailsafavi]

Azerbaijan was the first Democratic and Secular Muslim Republic who instantly as soon as we got independent gave women voting rights all of this happened in 1918 though also with Operas and Uni's and Ataturk also took inspiration from our First Constitution

[binderchannel]

Persia is proud of having the first parliment and constitution in Asia prior to Turks, Japanese chinese and others.

[fjoergyn]

That would mean there could be free speech, free speech means lesser control.

[evanlandry]

They don't like when they're people are allowed to think

[ilyapolishuk]

There are many inaccuracies. For example, the Rhodos and the surrounding islands were not given to Italy, but were temporarily transferred as a guarantee of ending resistance in Tripolitania and Cyrenaica.

[nathanpangilinan]

17:49 It was as if he had a crystal ball and could see what Saudi Arabia and its brand of Islam would do to both the world and the reputation of Islam.

[jason]

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[zhcultivator]

I think Pan-Islamism would most likely have been the best historical, geopolitical, economic and cultural course for the Middle East (from the options given or options available): especially a Pan-Islamic Electoral Autocratic* superstate of Middle-Eastern cooperation like the Proposed "European Federation" or Proposed "East African Federation" maybe...(reinforced* by Corporatist social class* collaboration e.g. with a possible ''Middle-eastern Corporatist Parliament'').

[fernit]

Ok, but can we talk about how hard the emblem of the Special Organization hits?

[xanoblade]

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[Ali-bulo]

Mirza Kuchik Khan's movement was started during WWI not in the civil war against the authoritarian Mohammadali Shah in 1907. Also his government was called "Republic of Persia" and later "Persian Soviet Socialist Republic", and he had intentions of conquering the capital.