The Commanders who Led the Clone Wars' Most Infamous Unit - Thorn, Thire & Fox Revisited

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0:00 Intro
0:35 Background
1:45 The Hated
4:17 The Loved
7:33 The Forgotten
10:37 Outro
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There's an even more forgotten commander than Thire in the Coruscant Commander Stone who had the honor of serving along side Representative Jar-Jar Binks on a rescue mission to Florum

RJazz
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We can’t forget CC-5869, Commander Stone. Who had the enormously difficult job of keeping Representative Binks alive. One of the toughest jobs in the Republic.

CC--jkcr
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“To pick up a barbecued Anakin Skywalker” is the most Australian way I’ve ever heard the ending of ROTS told and I love it

Archerdon
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Commander Thorn was a credit to his unit. He’s what all Coruscant Guard should have been.

masteroftheassassins
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Commander Thire deserves more love, he was probably the only Commander to gain Yoda's respect, him Jek and Rys were the best clones to help show us the good side of the Coruscant Guard. And they were the first clones we saw too in the show, with their episode being the first one to air to TV. Definitely my favorite Coruscant Guard commander, without a doubt.

inductivegrunt
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They may be frowned upon but nobody can dare say the drip be lacking for the guard.

cjthebeesknees
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Coruscant Guards is one of my favorite designs. They remind me of gold fish.

hunterkiller
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For the Republic!
-Thorne while absolutely destroying commando droids and B2 droids

indianajones
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You know, if Thorn wasn't a Coruscant Guardsman, would he have fit well under Mace Windu's command? Their philosophies on "Defending The Republic to the bitter end" seems to go well together.

Edit: WOW! 2 years later, and this is perhaps my most liked comment ever! Thank you all for the love.

gehrigstory
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Despite being faced with a grave situation, Commander Thorn acted quite well and quick. Even when they were faced with impossible odds, Thorn and his troops fought to the last breath and quite well at that. They really made those droids work for it. Commander Thorn was the healthier Fox. He was dedicated, but not blind with loyalty. He was a caring leader who thought more about how to approach a situation than Fox. Finally, he actually had some level of honor, unlike Fox. Commander Thorn and Commander Fox both got the deaths they deserved. Commander Thorn fought a ferocious last stand and made sure those droids would not take him out easily, while Fox got his neck snapped by the man who probably hated him the most.

galaxy-eyesgarchomp
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I feel like the two main reasons people hate Fox were because he killed Fives and he was a big reason Ashoka left the order. If you take a second and think about why Fox did this, it makes sense. Fox warned Fives to stay where he is multiple times but Fives was about to grab a blaster, Fox shot him because he didn’t want to get shot.
Fox also can’t see everything that goes on in the galaxy like we can, all of the evidence made it seem like Ashoka blew up the temple. It also looked like she killed all of the clones too.
I don’t love Fox and I love Fives and Ashoka a lot but he doesn’t deserve all of the hate he gets.

quandaledingle
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The Shock Troopers don't deserve the hate they get. They have a noble job protecting Senators and other dignitaries and sacrificed themselves without question to save Padme. Not to mention they've helped me turn the tide more than once in Fall of The Republic.

rc
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It's worth noting that Fox, like every other clone, had an inhibitor chip, and he worked directly under the one person in the galaxy capable of activating it. If Palpatine ordered Fox to kill Fives (something he almost certainly would have done given what Fives knew), Fox would have HAD to obey. Even Rex, one of the strongest and most loyal clones, was only able to hesitate in shooting Ahsoka for a few moments. Rex had incredibly strong ties to Ahsoka, while Fox only knew Fives as a raving lunatic who tried to kill his boss (who was an immensely popular figure at the time), had two high-ranking hostages, and was aiming a blaster at Fox and his men. There's just no way, if he was under Orders, for him to not kill Fives.

As for the situation with Ahsoka, even if we disregard the perfectly reasonable reasons to hunt her down (she was a suspect in a bombing with multiple casualties, she resisted arrest, she escaped from prison after (from what Fox knew at the time) killing multiple prison guards, and she was armed with deadly weapons), we also know that Palpatine had a vested interest in removing her from Anakin's life. She was a stabilizing influence in Anakin's life, and Palpatine needed Anain as unhinged as possible for his Sithly plots to work. He would have every reason to order Fox to use deadly force necessary. When Anakin ordered him to set his blasters to stun, there is every chance that Fox was going against Palpatine's orders when he complied.

People forget that Fox worked directly under the Sith Master, who was capable of making Fox do whatever he wanted. It's not Fox's fault that he was a pawn in the hands of a chess master.

TitaniumIris
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Fox was just following orders the entire time. Put in the same situation, Cody, Thorn, and (maybe) Thire would have executed the same orders. Wolffe for example, went after Ashoka too and he doesn’t get any hate. Fives was an armed fugitive and refused to surrender. It makes sense why he shot. Fives also had taken General Skywalker and Captain Rex hostage from a certain point of view. Going back to the same situation thing, if Fox was in the position of Thorn he would have done the same thing.

Trojan
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I wonder if Thire ever even considered defecting the Empire, having worked with and been inspired by Yoda and all. I also wonder if he had a hidden motive when tasked with hunting Yoda, which would be to talk to him and hear what he had to say about what Palpatine declared: That the Jedi had betrayed the Republic and sought to take over. Sometimes when you hear something terrible about another, you wanna hear it from them, too. Padmé did this when Obi-Wan told her what he did after falling to the Dark Side. Except in her case, she, unfortunately, realized Obi-Wan said the truth. Palpatine, obviously, did not

teleportedbreadfordays
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I would love to see another loved/hated/forgotten video like this! Puts peoples roles and ideals into perspective

sciathoir
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Honestly I found Fox's hatred largely undeserved seeing as any other Clone put in his position. Perhaps alike Rex, he would've behaved like Fox.

I mean what clone wouldn't follow an order almost without question like Fox seeing as he is "the right hand man" to Chancellor Palpatine (A.K.A) the quintessential president of the Republic.

Also the deal with the cleaner droids (assuming maintenance is regularly done) why would he be suspicious if he's done his hundreds of times.

CaptainRexCT--rdeq
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I think Fox represented most of the guards hard ass MP. While Thorn represented the body guard like role of the guard.
Anyways for how strict the guard is their commanders looks pretty cool.
Definitely one of my favorites.

viperson
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Hey Geetsly’s, there was another coruscant guard commander that everyone forgets even more than thire. Back in the florrum arc the was commander stone who worked with jar jar to rescue anakin and obiwan from hando’s pirates. I just wanted to remind everyone, and thank you for the great content lately.

zacharymeinholz
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Lowkey hope we see Thire in Bad Batch Season 2, we do see shots of the Coruscant Senate building so who knows.

KrypticElement