Dominions 5 - Natgen - 5 Nation Analysis

For those of you who aren't familiar with Natgen.. Its a tool that generates completely randomized nations including custom sprites!
Which of the 5 do you think is strongest?

[Petterwass]

Nationgen is amazing if you have the right mindset.
I'm running a Nationgen game right now and the flying gorilla samurai and the swan&ant-riding hoburg knights are at war after having beaten the glamoured giants and their 205 gold(!) sacreds, which is hands-down THE most expensive sacred unit I have ever seen.
Meanwhile, the bear-riding elves are raiding everyone, because elves.

[loggy]

Just thought I would point out that the cap sites for these nations aren't all just gem generators - some look to have some interesting twists, though I'm not sure there's anything particularly groundbreaking in there. Really enjoyed seeing your opinions on these, though!

[teakwondochest]

I played in the game with Uttraine, its about turn 50 and he is still doing fine. SO I assume you recommended him the correct nation :)


an abysian hoburg riding an ashdod giant skeelton is the coolest cav i have seen so far in natgen

[WadeStar]

So... when are we going to talk about Lucid's strange fixation on poop?

[NobodyNobody]

Lucid, big fan of your videos and glad to see you doing more Dominions analysis like this! You're always very informative and it's great to hear your thoughts on the different strategic aspects of the game. The fact that you can even analyze randomly generated nations and give a reasonable discussion of what they would be like is impressive, it shows you really understand the mechanics of the game and how they work with other players. That latter part is particularly interesting, since you have so much experience with multiplayer games it's great to hear more of how you see things playing out in multiplayer.

If nationgen isn't working for you but you want to get it working, elmokki built the latest version using Java 10 so you need the Java 10 Runtime Environment to run it. Oracle discontinued Java 10 so if you download the latest version of Java it's an upgraded Java 8 (Oracle's policies make no sense but they continued support for 8 even though they discounted 10). Therefore, you actually have to specifically look for Java 10 in the Java archive on Oracle's site instead of downloading the latest version. If you don't have the right version it unfortunately just silently fails or throws a generic error, and it sounds like you were getting that silent failure in your comment below. Hope that helps!

[Cookiestab]

Please do more natgen stuff, it's hilarious. Just gotta curate a tiny bit for these really insane nations like dustwalkers or lamias.

[alphawolf]

I remember when there were rumours that natgen wouldnt be updated for Dominions 5. So So So glad that it made it over.

[halbronco]

My main grief with this thing is a lot of the recruitment points are ridiculous. Like every little cav unit is 46 recruitment points even those crappy little deer. Feels like if I want to play a nation with cool troops I always have to take 3 order.

[andrewherzog]

get to see unit models you'll hardly ever see in vanilla. between hoburgh robot creations, pale one wights, or ogres with different themes, nation gen is fun to mess with.

[dazeen]

Frost weapons count as magic weapons right so you don't need magic weapons bless right?

[Madhattersinjeans]

Undead sacreds yay!
Can be nuked by a single spammable priest spell.
oh no.
Cavalry with low protection and 1 type of attack. wat

I love the RNG but there's a few elements that shouldn't be sprinkled around as much. Random drops of undead units is just a bad idea. And the discount on death scales in a human nation...why.

The mages are kinda neat though. I like the random summons they have, some guy that just appears with a water elemental is just cool. Or the shapechangers.

Great concept but uh, you'd probably want to roll the dice a bunch of times to avoid some of the worse kinds of units.

[alphawolf]

for the pine lord its kind of nice that he can retreat in hawk form if he dies (potentially) but I wonder how much that cost the mage chassis...was it worth 50 gold or so? probably not

[dikankan]

Thanks for continuing your run of great Dominions videos. Does nationgen have any option to generate national heroes, which is one of the fun dimensions of the game, and would help people who like filling out national lore.

[otherferret]

Do the special sites for generated nations have special effects on them?

[elpapichulomayoneso]

The only thing that bothers me about natgen is that it doesn't add attack sprites